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Old April 7th, 2010, 09:47 AM
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I urgently need to know... I have people coming over soon, and don't have time to go buy any quick-lights.

My coals are cocobrico if that helps


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Old April 7th, 2010, 09:49 AM
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Link isn't valid. Can you repost it?
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Old April 7th, 2010, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: can I effectively light coals on a hob like this?

I got a gas stove and even that works I just let them burn for like 5 mins, then the edges of my cocobrico coals are gray. I put them on my hookah and put the windcover on. After 5 mins on there they are fully lit

Is it an electric stove? Then I'd say it will work.
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Capt you just have to erase the spaces between / / and o .com and img .arch
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Capt you just have to erase the spaces between / / and o .com and img .arch
I did and it didn't work when I tried it. Let me try again.

Weird, got it to work that time. Must have missed a space. Some people have used burners like that, but they say it takes twice as long. So is it possible, probably, just may take awhile.
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sorry about that, didn't know if there is a restriction on new members posting links

yeah, it's electric
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If you are hip to the propane torches you can purchase within the car sections at the store... you should get hip. It's a lot hotter and easier to get things ready... and portable.
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Old April 7th, 2010, 10:01 AM
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what, like a chefs torch?
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Personally, I would put the coals on that stove, and turn it on high .. flip them when they are half read and cook the other side.
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i use a burner like that..only a single, it works, takes about 10 minutes for coconaras
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what, like a chefs torch?
Unfortunately I have a gas stove, and I don't like lighting coals on it. If I had an electric I'd be all over it. This is what I'm speaking of (the exact one I have actually). They are really inexpensive... I use them and they get things heated thoroughly quickly.

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Unfortunately I have a gas stove, and I don't like lighting coals on it. If I had an electric I'd be all over it. This is what I'm speaking of (the exact one I have actually). They are really inexpensive... I use them and they get things heated thoroughly quickly.

Thats what I use for QLs stateside, expect I use the fatboy benzomatic tanks. Its also great for creme brulee (the smaller ones take forever)
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Personally, I would put the coals on that stove, and turn it on high .. flip them when they are half read and cook the other side.
Thats exactly what I do, just start the coals before you do anything else and by the time your hookah is set up and the shisha is packed you should be good to go.
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basically any source of high heat will light your coals. my friend has one of those glass top stoves like

http://www.realestateholdings.com/Ri.../kitchen11.JPG

sorry about the random link, google searched and that's the first one that came up... but i think he actually has the same countertops too, which is kinda odd. anwyay...

he was worried about the heat hurting his stovetop, but i told him that was nonsense, because it was impossible for the coal to add more heat than given to it by the stove itself. long story short, it works just fine, but takes a little longer because (1) the heat is initially insulated from the coal and (2) there's no airflow under the coal.

i think i saw a thread the other day where someone was successfully lighting coals with a heat gun from the garage.
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i wouldn't use the glass top stoves because i would fear it would crack while heating the coal
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Old April 7th, 2010, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: can I effectively light coals on a hob like this?

"i wouldn't use the glass top stoves because i would fear it would crack while heating the coal"
I have been told this can happen, but doesn't a pan on the burner get just as hot at a coal?
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Old April 7th, 2010, 06:59 PM
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i wouldn't use the glass top stoves because i would fear it would crack while heating the coal
yeah, i heard about that. But i sometimes heat my coals on a similar stove, and i personally never had a problem.

But if you can do it in any other way, i think its safer.
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"i wouldn't use the glass top stoves because i would fear it would crack while heating the coal"
I have been told this can happen, but doesn't a pan on the burner get just as hot at a coal?
yes but a pan has spread out heat and a coal is on one spot but i wouldn't risk it tho
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you've got to figure that those stoves have been tested with all burners turned on "high" with nothing on them for a period much much longer than it takes to light a coal. products have to be as idiot proof as possible. i believe new ones even have automatic shutoffs which cut the heat before it gets too high to damage the glass top.

back to my original point (which admittedly was a little off track from the OP), coals burn at what? like 350degF and the heating element in the stovetop can put out at least 450-500degF... there's no way that the coal is magically adding heat back to the stove unless it's trapping and accumulating heat underneath it.

other than the potential for a little black smudge that will need to be wiped off later, i personally feel safe doing it.
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I've been using my glass top stove for four months now with a problem. No cracks or stains to date. Boy if that happened the wife would really kill me.
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you could always get some purell and light that up in a jar top and put the coals on a fork above, there is a thread somewhere discussing that
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Old April 8th, 2010, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: can I effectively light coals on a hob like this?

Well, thanks for all the advice guys.

In the end I bought a blow torch and cooked the coals with that before putting them on the hob to finish them off... I think for the future I might invest in a shishavac (found it on youtube last night and was like, wtf!!!)

Thanks again for your help.
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If it's ok I'd like to tag a question onto this thread of my own...unfortunately I heat my coals on a gas stove too. I currently place the coals on a piece of gauze but it still takes at least 15- 20 mins to get some decent heat. I've even bought a small blowtorch to try and speed up proceedings. Is it still ok to have some black colouring on the coal? Also is 2 Cocobricos enough for this type of bowl?

http://www.hookahshop.co.uk/regular-...ade-p-317.html

Or would you use 3? Struggling at the moment without a windcover, I bought a new KM last week but my old windcover doesn't fit it.

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If it's ok I'd like to tag a question onto this thread of my own...unfortunately I heat my coals on a gas stove too. I currently place the coals on a piece of gauze but it still takes at least 15- 20 mins to get some decent heat. I've even bought a small blowtorch to try and speed up proceedings. Is it still ok to have some black colouring on the coal? Also is 2 Cocobricos enough for this type of bowl?

http://www.hookahshop.co.uk/regular-...ade-p-317.html

Or would you use 3? Struggling at the moment without a windcover, I bought a new KM last week but my old windcover doesn't fit it.

Thanks everyone

2 is probably enough but as the coals get smaller your going to have to add a 3rd

they need to be completely ashed over or you will taste them and get a major headache
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I've always wondered about this too...I've been in positions where I had the chance to use one of those hob stoves but I didn't because I felt like they would melt through or something...

good thread, I learned a lot.
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