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Old April 13th, 2010, 10:09 PM
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Default How to pack AF into alien phunnel?

I just got my alien phunnel not to long ago and i'm having some trouble packing AF into it. I pack it as I do with my medium phunnel but I just can't get a decent amount of smoke with it. When I try to put a 2nd coal on it, the smoke gets harsh so I usually leave it with only 1 coal. Any tips for packing aliens with AF?
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Old April 13th, 2010, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: How to pack AF into alien phunnel?

My alien mini phunnel has done well with DM, Nakhla and Fusion, but I don't think I have tried my AF Soft Black with it yet? This bowl is pretty shallow, so I could see why it would be easy to overheat with it. I use two coals from start to finish without any harsh smoke. Are you hitting it too hard? Are you using a wind cover?
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Old April 13th, 2010, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: How to pack AF into alien phunnel?

Are you packing it tight or fluffy and then putting foil on it? I pack it 'tight' which really amounts to spreading tobacco in the bowl as if it were peanut butter with an oyster fork and getting it a little below the rim.
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Default Re: How to pack AF into alien phunnel?

AF is one of the most heat sensitive tobacco's out there and considering how shallow the alien phunnel is I would imagine that it would be a very difficult task getting it to smoke properly.

The only way I get a good smoke out of AF is with a dense pack so maybe go with a dense pack and make sure the tobacco isn't touching the foil. Doubling up on the foil might help as well.
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Default Re: How to pack AF into alien phunnel?

sprinkle the af to the very top of the bowl loosely all the way around, then jam it down as far as you can evenly around.
this works on the alien i promise. also cook the AF with two coals and a windcover for about 2 minutes
then drop the windcover and rotate the coals prior to the first puff
rotate coals every 5 minutes
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Old April 14th, 2010, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: How to pack AF into alien phunnel?

I tend to pack AF tightly in my Small phunnel so I guess that should be applied to the alien phunnel. Because the alien is so shallow loosely packing it will allow the tobacco to heat up too quickly.
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Default Re: How to pack AF into alien phunnel?

I've expressed my opinion before .. That "Alien" bowl looks to be way too shallow! It looks like it would burn the tobacco.

There is a big difference between "burning" and "smoldering"
- Burning produces huge clouds but you sacrifices flavor and end up with harsh burnt smoke
- Smoldering produces huge flavor and respectable clouds

Try your Al Fakher in a regular Egyptian bowl or a Vortex. You can vary the amount of tobacco to a minimal amount in a small Egyptian bowl or even a Vortex. Just pop a windcover over the bowl with 1-2 coals and you will be able to build up some great heat to produce respectable clouds with a conservative amount of shisha tobacco. Pull the windcover on and off to manage heat and rotate your coals.

Hope that helps ..
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Default Re: How to pack AF into alien phunnel?

Today i tried packing the alien with some SB and it was pretty good. It was much better than with the AF. Ill try to pack it with AF soon tho
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