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Old April 14th, 2010, 10:34 AM
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Default Seized parcel with molasses by UK Border Agency

I just got letter from them. Do you know what should I do to get it returned to sender? There was plenty of molasses worth a lot for me. I cannot afford to pay charges - they are sick high...

Or better to forget about it. All I know I should get letter with amount to pay and if I don't want to - they will send it back to US. Looks like I am in big trouble...
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Old April 14th, 2010, 10:38 AM
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send it back, thats your only real option
you have to keep rolling the dice until you dont get caught
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Old April 14th, 2010, 10:40 AM
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u should see how much u have to pay. if its about the same as u payed for postage pay it cuz if it gets sent to the sender u are gonna lose postage. you may just have to pay VAT. give them a call 2 see how much it is.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Seized parcel with molasses by UK Border Agency

But it says it is not in the customs policy to return seized things. They didn't give me that option. Did you red the letter I received?
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Old April 14th, 2010, 11:07 AM
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That is awful and it won't be long before the same thing is happening in the US. Damn
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Old April 14th, 2010, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Seized parcel with molasses by UK Border Agency

Who did you order from?

I want to order soon but a bit scared of customs lool.

Yh its not in customs so wont be VAT will be the 80 fee on a kilo
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Old April 14th, 2010, 04:19 PM
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Sorry this happened to you dude. This stuff makes me worry about ordering from the US. Hope you find a solution.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 06:55 PM
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I just sent out a trade package within the US and the postal person went through this long list of substances to make sure it was ok to send it. LOL Luckily, pipe tobacco, which shisha is considered by the US, wasn't on the list. Only cigarette products. So, we're still ok here. LOL Smoke happy.

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Old April 14th, 2010, 10:00 PM
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Man thats crazy customs. Hope that doesnt start to happen here in the us, we'll never be able to get decent shisha
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Old April 14th, 2010, 11:39 PM
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the first page says that pipe tobacco is excluded shisha is pipe tobacco write a letter saying that and they should send it to you
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Old April 15th, 2010, 04:51 AM
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Agree with dlr1881. Pipe tobacco is excluded so you should contact them and tell them that shisha/molasses falls under pipe tobacco.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: Seized parcel with molasses by UK Border Agency

You have to pay taxes for every kind of tobacco you get from abroad, no matter if cigarettes or pipe tobacco (EU law). It is by the way illegal to avoid these taxes -> for example, if you get a parcel from the U.S. and the customs dont seize it, you have to go to your customs office and declare the taxes then.

I'm not 100% sure about the UK, but here in Germany the customs send it back to the sender, if you dont reply or pick it up within 14 days. Shipping fees are lost, but the sender will give your money back then.

btw: you even have to declare taxes for tobacco, if it is a gift. Jonathan from Sahara Smoke was nice enough to send me some HH for free and I had to pay taxes for it. 500g = 80€ or something like that. Stupid EU laws ...

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Hey PC,

It's not just the EU. Here in the states, even though you don't pay taxes initially on items purchased from out of state via the internet, you are still "required" to claim them on your yearly tax filing. It's just that a very small number of people actually do make the claim on the tax forms. I'm sure some do but it's pretty much on an honor system to claim whatever you buy off the internet and haven't paid taxes to your state for having it. But it is still a requirement for citizens to do here in the states. Smoke happy.

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You have to pay taxes for every kind of tobacco you get from abroad, no matter if cigarettes or pipe tobacco (EU law). It is by the way illegal to avoid these taxes -> for example, if you get a parcel from the U.S. and the customs dont seize it, you have to go to your customs office and declare the taxes then.

I'm not 100% sure about the UK, but here in Germany the customs send it back to the sender, if you dont reply or pick it up within 14 days. Shipping fees are lost, but the sender will give your money back then.

btw: you even have to declare taxes for tobacco, if it is a gift. Jonathan from Sahara Smoke was nice enough to send me some HH for free and I had to pay taxes for it. 500g = 80 or something like that. Stupid EU laws ...
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Hey PC,

It's not just the EU. Here in the states, even though you don't pay taxes initially on items purchased from out of state via the internet, you are still "required" to claim them on your yearly tax filing. It's just that a very small number of people actually do make the claim on the tax forms. I'm sure some do but it's pretty much on an honor system to claim whatever you buy off the internet and haven't paid taxes to your state for having it. But it is still a requirement for citizens to do here in the states. Smoke happy.

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Old April 15th, 2010, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: Seized parcel with molasses by UK Border Agency

The difference is that all shops who sell shisha are located IN the US, do you can avoid that kind of stuff, you order from shops in your country, EU ppl need to order from shops out of the European Union, or how it's called..
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Old April 15th, 2010, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: Seized parcel with molasses by UK Border Agency

There are shops inside the EU you can order from, but it is not cheaper to buy from there, than buying from the US and paying the customs fees and taxes or the stuff you get is not worth smoking lol German tobacco for example is disgusting and totally dry.
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that sux i dont know what i would do!
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