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Old April 20th, 2010, 01:45 PM
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So I normally use coco-nara coals, however I was trying new coals to combat price issues for the past month or two. I stopped using Cocos halfway through a box and just picked up the same box yesterday. It was utter crap. The coals splintered while heating, imparted a horrid taste to my tobacco and almost ruined a session (I saved it by dropping the cocos, purging, letting the bowl sit and adding new coals - tada great session.

The box was stored with my other coals, some of which I used to save my session, and had been working fine prior to last night's use.

This ever happen to anyone else? I think I'll try them again tonight but I'm scared my other box of coco's will be crap as well.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 01:49 PM
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its possible your coals could have maybe picked up some moisture while they were stored?
I usually will move my coals to a large tupperware container and I usually throw 1 or 2 of those silica gel packs in with it to absorb any moisture while they are stored.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 01:50 PM
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That has never happened to me .. I know you said you stored them with your other coals, but maybe there is another missing value to this equation? Moisture of any kind prior to putting them away for storage maybe??
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Old April 20th, 2010, 01:54 PM
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If your other box is "crap as well", id question the source
they dont put out a crap product, in fact its the best coal ive used so far
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Old April 20th, 2010, 02:23 PM
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If your other box is "crap as well", id question the source
they dont put out a crap product, in fact its the best coal ive used so far
Gotta read the whole post. They were great prior to being stored while I tried other coals. SamB and BP's observations re: moisture are probably better bets. My source is good, aka, coco-nara.us.

I thought about the moisture thing after reading some of the "reclaiming coco coals" threads, but the only thing specific that would be moisture is Texas humidity. Maybe my other coals aren't as susceptible to humidity. They were not in a sealed Tupperware container so obviously they'd be exposed to changes in humidity.

Maybe I'll try the baking method with these if they're still bad tonight...it may be just sitting in Texas weather, especially now that it's getting more towards summer, makes these work not so good.

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Old April 20th, 2010, 02:38 PM
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I dont really get why moisture in it would affect it if we're heating and burning off any moisture when lighting the coals...
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ever tried to light and burn damp wood? same principle. Its smoky and takes forever to light, once it does light it burns unevenly.
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the moisture in the air is enough to affect the coals that much? thats crazy
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all coals can be affected by moisture in the air
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Old April 20th, 2010, 03:27 PM
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Don't have an answer but I can vouch that it really happens. Bought two boxes of Coco's months ago. Went through the first box pretty fast, used 1/4 of the second one and then I tried ******* Nats and Instants. After I ran out of the *******s, I went for my left over box and they tasted horrible. However, in my case I'm pretty sure it was the moisture that got into the coals.

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hmmm.... guess I better move my coals into some gladware then
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Old April 20th, 2010, 05:05 PM
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I've had similar problems in the past with ambient moisture making my coals suck. But I never thought of using silica gel packs! That's genius, I love you guys.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 05:54 PM
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Well it looks like i will be making another gladware purchase.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 06:35 PM
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Ill be saving my silica gel packets for now on
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Default Re: Coco-Nara coals going bad?

Sure can. When coals are made part of the process is removing almost all of the moisture out of them. When they sit around exposed to air, they will begin to absorb moisture from the air, sort of like a sponge will absorb a water spill if you lay in the water. The moisture will fill in any tiny spaces between the solid parts of the coal, thereby causing it to light ineffectively and can also cause certain chemical reactions with the other parts of the coal, resulting in a nasty taste as well as a slow and uneven burn. Smoke happy.

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the moisture in the air is enough to affect the coals that much? thats crazy
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Old April 21st, 2010, 11:26 PM
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tupperware....its a hookah staple
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Default Re: Coco-Nara coals going bad?

hmm thats just weird how nothing happened to the other coals and only the Cocos.... i was actaully going to pick up Cocos soon for the first time, so thanks for this .. now i know to store them a little more carefully
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 12:40 AM
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Update: No good tonight. I'll either bake em or trash em, havn't decided. I'll have to test the other box at some point.

On another note - tried Starlight nats recommended by CaptHowdy for the first time. Holy crap - at a fraction of Coco costs, these are unbeatable!
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I have had a problem just like this twice Special K I bought two boxes of COCONaras and they both where splintering and smelling bad. This was strange because they have always been my favorite brand so now I have been using exoticas and another brand. But since Samb got a great deal from coco I am going to order some more coconaras from coco site. I heard for awhile there was a shortage and the quality slipped (just a rumor) but now I hear good things so I would give them a second chance. I am going too!
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I have two boxes of Exoticas and two boxes of Coco-Nara on my fridge. Both seem to work fine for me. One box of the Coconara is pre cube and the other box is brand new. Both work flawlessly! I got them directly from the manufacturers though.
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I think it is worthy of mentioning, that years ago when I used quicklights more often. I noticed a reduction in ability to light if I left them in my garage between smoke sessions.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 10:53 AM
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Maybe they just don't last too well when opened and not used promptly, at least when humidity changes here. This was the first time I had a problem, but it's also the first time I started a box and then came back to it at a later time.

I'm curious to take a few diff natural coals and put them side by side to see which one reacts to humidity the best in the same conditions. Love cocos, as I've stated many times in the past, but it'd be nice to not have to worry about them or use tupperware on coals.
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Is this more a problem for Natural coals? or is it equal for QLs?
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 11:56 AM
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No idea, don't really use QLs. And when I do, it's normally 3 kings which have never given me issues - assuming I wait for them to fully ash.
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oh alright cus atm i use just ql cus i dont have a stove ready for nats cus i dont smoke indoors or at home

i still keep them in a ziplock bag so that they arent scattered
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