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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:28 PM
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This is probably a really stupid question, but it's been bugging me. I had been using QL's up until recently, and one of the reasons I decided to switch to Nats is that I swear I read somewhere that only 15% of the coal, or less, turns to ash. I thought this would be great for smoking indoors, less ash to potentially spill. So there I am with my box of CH coals last night, and used 5 throughout the whole session. I swear there was more ash there than the sizes of the coals to begin with. Sure enough, it spilled all over as well. Am I imagining that I read this somewhere, or am I doing something wrong. I expected there to be ~15% ash, and a useless chunk sitting there at the end. I still love the naturals much more than the QL's, but this has me wondering.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:31 PM
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anything that burns will produce ash.Most quality coals are very dense and therefore the amount of ash will usually be similar to the mass of the coal.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:46 PM
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Ah I just found what I was referring to. Coco-Nara lists on their website that "leaves less than 5% in ashes." The CH coals description also states "leaves very little ash if any." Is this just deception on their part, or am I misinterpreting this?
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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:50 PM
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yeah, both those statements are BS unless their measuring in weight.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:53 PM
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Yeah, my natural coals ash a lot more than my QLs do, but they last longer too. Like previously stated, the ash will almost equal the original volume.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 12:07 AM
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While it's true that Coco Nara coals leave very little ash, the 5% figure is BS. CH coals, QLs or nats, produce a ton of gravelly ash. ShishaCo coals also ash quite a bit.

I hate to tell people to buy more stuff, but since the ash really bugs you, I think Coco Nara coals would be a sound investment. From my own experience and contrary to what some people say, CH coals are NOT great coals. Not even close. I've got scars from a CH nat disintegrating and burning my skin through my clothes.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 12:10 AM
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yeah i get significantly less ash from coconaras than i do with CH coals.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 12:11 AM
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Yeah I'm not a huge fan of the CH coals, but they're what a local shop carried. Next online order I place I'll buy a box or two of CN's. I've used them with a friend and like them more. My main problem with the CH's is they seem to spark more than I'd like.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 12:24 AM
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Yeah I'm not a huge fan of the CH coals, but they're what a local shop carried. Next online order I place I'll buy a box or two of CN's. I've used them with a friend and like them more. My main problem with the CH's is they seem to spark more than I'd like.
If I may make a suggestion, go for a box or two of 16 pieces just to give them a test drive and see if the lighting time bugs you. Some people don't like that they take ~10 minutes to light up. That might be a deal breaker.

And if you've got your mind set on them, there's an amazing deal at Coco-Nara.us for Hookah Pro members. If you use the coupon code (in the vendor section) during checkout you'll get 4 boxes of 108 pieces for only $40.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 12:57 AM
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I don't mind the lighting time. To be honest, it takes me about that long to light QL's too. I always light them and let them sit for awhile until ALL black stuff is gone, I don't want to breathe whatever that is in. Plus I like the extended time I get from nats. 45-55 mins vs 30 mins with QL's is always a plus. Also, I already bought the $10 Walgreens "lighter" haha. Thanks for pointing out the deal at Coco-Nara.us, I somehow passed over that.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 01:32 AM
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I like the extended time I get from nats.
According to what I've read, the new cubic CCNs last over an hour. I can't confirm that myself but I'm inclined to believe it.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 07:35 AM
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you can't remove matter. It only changes states. So, when you burn a coal, which has a small moisture content, the moisture evaporates and is removed as water vapor. All other constituents of the coal are simply changed to ash. So, by weight, the resulting ash will be slightly less than the original coal. However, in volume, since the amount of removed moisture is very minimal, it will actually be roughly the same amount as when the coal started whole. The only reason the ash might seem like there is less of it is because the particals composing the ash are smaller and therefore more compactable than the larger particles that make up the unburned coal. Smoke happy.

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I tried CH coals...i hate them, they smell bad, they smoke when they heat up, they are junk

Im getting coco-naras from now on especially buy 3 get 1 free
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Default Re: Natural Coals and Ashing

I kind of find it hard to believe that naras last over an hour... I always feel like I have to toss a new set on in the same amount of time as I do with quicklights, I mean, they might last longer, but in terms of heat, it doesn't really do much when theyre down to the last 10-15 min. and then theres the time to light another set. I usually go naras then quicklights if I wanna go for longer.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Natural Coals and Ashing

Using a windcover, I can make a set of CCN's last about an hour even up to an hour and 15 minutes. Perfect for a session on a crown bowl classic.
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yeah, both those statements are BS unless their measuring in weight.
I can't help but wonder if this is where they get that figure from, probably is.
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