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Old May 2nd, 2010, 08:54 AM
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Default im new to hookah and need a little help

can anyone list some good web sites for buying hookah supplies with low shipping cost. i' m in the US by the way. also i recently bought a vortex bowl and looked on youtube for videos of how to pack it. i think i know how to pack it, but i cant get my hookah to put out decent clouds if any. i use one charcoal for my bowl, iv tried using 2 but it seemed kind of harsh. but when i used 2 i also packed the bowl pretty tight thinking that that's how vortex bowls are used, but thanks to the internet i found out that i was doing it wrong at first. my hookah is one of those noob ones that are like $30.00 for the whole set and its like 11". iv had a little problem when putting a splash of milk in the vase and using 4 ice cubes and the rest with water until it fills half way. when i draw from it i tend to get some of the milk water mixture into my hose. my question about that is if i should not use milk at all, or don't fill up the vase as much. any answers to any of these questions would really help, thank you.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: im new to hookah and need a little help

For shipping I would check the vendor deals forum. Some vendors offer free shipping from time to time. Also check the vendor review threads in the review forum.

For the milk I wod use less milk and a little less water. Milk tends to produce a lot of bubbles so use only a little milk .You probably have a non washable hose and it will beginto rust so I would look Into getting a washable hose.

As for the vortex it may need more heat. What type of shisha are you putting in it and is that shisha touching your foil and burning?

By the way welcome to the forum man. Pictures of your setup would be a help in order to diagose issues. How the Bowl is packed, coals, holes in your foil and your rig it's self.hope that helps!

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Old May 2nd, 2010, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: im new to hookah and need a little help

thank you very much for that info, i use al-fakher vanilla. when i pack it in my vortex i make sure it doesn't touch the foil. i was even wondering if i would get better results from cutting my coals in half and spreading them. i attached some pics of my hookah.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 10:47 AM
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when using milk(which i dont see the point), it should be 90% water and 10% milk.
The point of milk is bigger clouds. Just realize your sacrificing taste. I would never sacrifice taste personally.

As far as websites and shipping here is the link that tell you discounts and where to shop
http://www.hookahpro.com/forum/showt...discount+codes

how to:
http://www.hookahpro.com/forum/video...y&categoryid=1

newbie guide:
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 10:56 AM
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thank you also for the info. ill try just using water the next time.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: im new to hookah and need a little help

rid the pumpkin, one of the worst hookahs ever invented.

the vortex is half decent, not bad, but rid the milk and ice, both impair taste. you will need atleast 3 natural coals on the vortex.

IMO i would upgrade the hookah first, somehign like a MYA QT would be perfect, and an alien mini bowl aswell. then get some nak/AF and some Coconara coals, or some CH coals.
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yeah i was thinking about getting a MYA bambino from hookah-shisha.com but it might interfere with my love of gaming. i still have to think about it.
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i havr had the debate many a time. but if its between more tangiers and a game, tangier hands down
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Default Re: im new to hookah and need a little help

glad to know milk impaires the taste....didnt know that....now i will stop using ice too...thanks. BTW AstuteCheese, definetely look into a new hose....especially since uve already had the milk/water mix come up through it. Nammor or Razan is the brand i would go for. They are washable and very nice!
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 01:11 PM
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yeah that's what i' m definitely gonna do is buy a nammor hose. the hose i have now is terrible lol my friend knocked over my hookah because the hose was too short.
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Milk bubbles up alot, once it gets in your hose, that's no good... Now It will start to rust. Nammor hoses are excellent, beware of fakes.

It looks like you have a coconara on there. Good choice if that is what youve got. For a vortex bow I would never use less than 2 coals. Usually I have 3 on the edges, and move them around as needed.

I would upgrade to the Bambino.

http://www.hookahpro.com/forum/video...s&videoid=3340

Theres a video I made about packing a vortex. This is by no means the RIGHT way to pack a bowl, everyone does it differently, but maybe this will help.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: im new to hookah and need a little help

it was actually al-fakher hookah coconut charcoal, but its not that different from a coconara. and thank you very much for the tips. i think ill buy a 108 pack of those coconaras soon.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 05:20 PM
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Hmm...methinks you should upgrade your hookah. It's a pumpkin, and its not very "smokeable" x] Good choice on the coals and vortex bowl. All you need is a better hookah imo.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 05:39 PM
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Pumpkins can hit pretty well if set up properly.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 05:52 PM
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Oh I see. I guess it's just my experiences with one then =/
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: im new to hookah and need a little help

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Pumpkins can hit pretty well if set up properly.
i dont think even the maker of KM could get it to smoke well
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: im new to hookah and need a little help

i have a small pumpkin one too except the base doesnt have the pumpkin ridges

its my first hookah but i can get the setup right i just have not gotten around to getting good coals but i have some Cocos on their way

it can smoke good i just need better coals
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 06:36 PM
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i dont think even the maker of KM could get it to smoke well
I beg to differ
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 06:40 PM
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Wow =D That's pretty amazing. Totally wouldn't expect that from a pumpkin..
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 06:44 PM
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Good shisha, good coals and a properly sealed hookah do wonders.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 07:26 PM
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lol you call that thick?

adn 2 cocos plus windcover means he would have been burning that shisha badly
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Default Re: im new to hookah and need a little help

Well, your first hookah looks almost identical to a Social Smoke Rave, which I just did a video review on and it's up in the forums now, but without the lights. In my opinion, lose the milk, add another coal but make sure they're on oppostite sides and are on the edge of the bowl as well. You could throw a windcover on for the first couple minutes just to get the bowl warmed up, and then take it off. Don't bother with putting ice in your base either with a pumpkin, you just lose flavour that way, and to me, flavour is more important than thick clouds.
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I had a pumpkin for the longest time, and I got it to smoke amazingly with standard shit.
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I had a pumpkin for the longest time, and I got it to smoke amazingly with standard shit.
Same here. http://www.hookahpro.com/forum/video...s&videoid=3375
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I would recommend getting a khalil mamoon hookah and a narbish hose. Also make sure you're putting enough holes in the foil, if you don't it will smoke really harsh and burn really quickly.
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