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Old May 3rd, 2010, 04:26 PM
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ok so i have a ramsesIII with a vortex bowl, using 2x foil and 3 coconara. i got SB tequilia sunrise in it right now and its harsh on my throat, using ice water also. now i have had done 5 sessions with this hookah before all SB blue mist, guava,strawberry, and code 69 and those were fluffy and great no throat irritation! whats wrong this time any thoughts on my prob!
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: smoke is harsh on current session!! dumb founded!

your heating your tobacco too quickly, take a coal off, rotate your coals, purge the hookah, wait a minute and try again, also make sure your tobacco isnt touching your foil
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 04:34 PM
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check it, not on the foil, i got one coal on it now been on for about five min and purged the heck out of it, no luck! is it a newbie curse?!?! lol
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: smoke is harsh on current session!! dumb founded!

my guess is tobacco is touchin the foil.
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: smoke is harsh on current session!! dumb founded!

let it sit for five minutes and cool off, its burning
then slow cook it, put the coals back on and just leave it alone for a couple minutes before you puff it
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 04:43 PM
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no foil burn, could it be the shisha? maybe i missed some stems??
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: smoke is harsh on current session!! dumb founded!

The only things I can think of are you're either packing too much tobacco in your bowl, allowing to it rise and touch the foil, or not heating your coals long enough on the stove. Another reason this could be happening is if you leave your coals on the bowl without smoking it for too long; I've noticed that doing this leads to harshness, but it's fixable by blowing out both bowl and base.

As far as heating your tobacco too fast, I don't think that's an issue, unless you're smoking Tangiers. I generally put 3 coals on every bowl I pack, phunnel & vortex, immediately after taking them off the stove, sometimes even with a windcover for a few minutes depending on the brand of tobacco.

Try blowing out your bowl from time to time when the smoke gets harsh if blowing out the base does nothing. That has worked for me on many many occasions.
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 04:57 PM
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ok so i've done everything and still no luck im gonna have to got this down has my fisrt failed bowl! dont worry tequila sunrise i will bake you another day!!! thanks for the help everyone!!
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 06:47 PM
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its pretty tough for me to get harsh smoke using my vortex bowl, i use heavy duty tin foil and two quicklights, for the shisha usually SB or HH works great
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 09:51 PM
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the way i start my session is i let it sit for a couple minutes before i start inhaling. it could also be the way your poking your holes
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PURGEEEEE it out and make sure your coals are torwards the edge of your bowl. I tend to move them in closer and move them out back to the edges to manage heat. Sounds like a bad pack.
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Default Re: smoke is harsh on current session!! dumb founded!

I'm not sure if it's the same thing but I had a problme like that with some SB this past weekend.
I made the mistake of not putting enough shisha when I "sprinkled" it in and I poked my holes larger than normal but with the same pattern.

I fixed it by adding a little more shisha and making a whole new foil with the same pattern but with the normal sized holes.
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PURGEEEEE it out and make sure your coals are torwards the edge of your bowl. I tend to move them in closer and move them out back to the edges to manage heat. Sounds like a bad pack.
I agree 100% that it sounds like a bad pack.
I can't say I've ever had this happen to me though, especially using a vortex.. :/
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I agree 100% that it sounds like a bad pack.
I can't say I've ever had this happen to me though, especially using a vortex.. :/
Yeah Ive put 4 cocos on a vortex before no burn...
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