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Old May 13th, 2010, 01:49 PM
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I'm thinking of buying this:
http://www.socialsmoke.com/cgi-bin/s...ookahs&catstr=
of course with the Namoor hose and the Hemi bowl.
I still have these two in mind too:
1. http://www.hookahstore.com/hookahs-k...kah-p-304.html
2. http://www.hookah-life.com/23-inch-k...al-hookah.html

Do you guys have any input on these?
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Old May 13th, 2010, 02:01 PM
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Never owned an MZ but heard good things about them.

I do however own 5 KM's at present and they are great pipes, always smoke well, and very solid.

Therefore i would recommend the americana. I know a few people have them on this forum and they love them.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 02:25 PM
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Thanks for the reply, the good thing about the ZM is that with ~80 bucks I get the carrying bag too. but I guess KM outbrands ZM !
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Old May 13th, 2010, 02:45 PM
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Remember that KM is a commercial grade pipe. They are designed to be used in hookah lounges where they'll be smoked daily. So that means a KM will last a long time, it might cost a few dollars more but you wont have to replace it.

Also, the different metals used in the stem makes it harder for the heat to pass from one material to another. This means a colder smoke.

Plus they're so damn pretty!
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Old May 13th, 2010, 02:47 PM
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Go for the Km, It looks pretty awesome & as a KM owner they are a solid rig. Plus Hookah store is a great website and always takes good care of our members.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 02:52 PM
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That MZ looks nice and its a good price (for online) since you are also getting a couple of bonus packs and a wind cover. I have one and its professional grade SS and wide gauge stem so the draw is effortless. I also like the snap-in tray.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 02:58 PM
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Go with the MZ. Magdy Zidan hookahs are great rigs with very clean welds and seams. That smoke wonderfully and will lats. Also the mini KMs are lack luster from what I have seen. According to Sambooka they are prone to tipping.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 03:00 PM
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Remember that KM is a commercial grade pipe. They are designed to be used in hookah lounges where they'll be smoked daily. So that means a KM will last a long time, it might cost a few dollars more but you wont have to replace it.

Also, the different metals used in the stem makes it harder for the heat to pass from one material to another. This means a colder smoke.

Plus they're so damn pretty!

Bear in mind that the MZ is going to last as well. The two brands are of a similar fashion and are made from similar materials. Most lounges I have gone to actually use MZ over KM because of the price point and because the quality and function are pretty much the same.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 03:03 PM
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Wow the bi/tri metal rational makes total sense..awesome!
I always thought it only looks better...
I probably will go w/ the KM americana.
It's so frustrating why Hookahstore doesn't have bags! do you guys know a good online store for that. preferably free shipping..I don't wanna pay as much as the bag itself for the shipping!
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Old May 13th, 2010, 03:06 PM
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How do you guys compare KM hoses vs. Namoor ?
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Old May 13th, 2010, 03:17 PM
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Go with the MZ. Magdy Zidan hookahs are great rigs with very clean welds and seams. That smoke wonderfully and will lats. Also the mini KMs are lack luster from what I have seen. According to Sambooka they are prone to tipping.
I agree. I checked out a KM ( i hink it was heartof the lion 23" ) and compared it to the MZ I bought at my local store and I found the MZ to be more solid and more substantial. The small Km looked nice but it felt kind of light, crappy welds and the tray was very small. I think KMs are some of the best but I prefer the solid (heavy) ones which are alot more expensive.
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How do you guys compare KM hoses vs. Namoor ?
the KM hose has a slightly wider gauge, and is constructed awesome but its not washable like the Nammor. I also find the gauge is wide enough to lose some flavor. I think a nammor is a very good hose to have
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Old May 13th, 2010, 05:32 PM
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I like the KM hose, but they are not washable and ghost strong flavors after awhile. After smoking a nammor and the KM, go for the Nammor. They are very simialr but the washability makes it so you dont have to have 2 - 3 hoses to combat flavor ghosts.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 06:31 PM
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americana all the way
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Old May 13th, 2010, 07:28 PM
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I would definitely say go with the KM because Ive smoked out of plenty of them and they have never let me down
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Old May 13th, 2010, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Expert opinion on this!!

Honestly, i had a MZ. IT was alright for the first time. IT was prone to rusting. I would do a KM mine, i've had for a good while is now starting to degrade. (KM ice chiller) My chiller is leaking and the hose valve is coming off.

KM's are the way to go. Very reliable, very sturdy.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: Expert opinion on this!!

The KM fanboyism is just silly honestly. MZ's are very good hookahs.
They will last and have cleaner welds and smoke just as good as a KM.

To the OP if you like the MZ and really want the bag that comes with it then get the MZ. KM's are great hookahs but there are many great hookahs by MZ also.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 11:28 PM
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tnx ya'll for the discussion. the thing is I can afford a "mini" americana. I saw a video review here showing how light it is and how easily it trips with the KM hose that comes w/ it. moreover, I have a choice of Nammor hose on the MZ. so I'd probably go with that. The only drawback is that the the Sirius MZ base is really boring! but we'll see...
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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:22 AM
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actually hookah store will not give you the americana mini with the hose shown in the picture(because of the chances of it tipping over), so you will get a KM mini hose with it....I know cuz Ill be getting mine tomorrow....
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Old May 14th, 2010, 10:12 AM
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oh, nice Joser81. I can wait for you to get it and let me know how it works. I hate the idea of light hookahs. I have burnt so many carpets by them getting pulled after a couple of glasses of wine (which I absolutely love with hookah).
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