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Old May 15th, 2010, 11:19 AM
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Hey folks

I am packing a bowl of AF right now (funnel bowl) and I wonder if it would make any difference to poke bigger holes? Usually I poke small holes with a pin.
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Old May 15th, 2010, 11:32 AM
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i use a toothpic on AF and it cant smoke any better than i get it to
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Old May 15th, 2010, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

What matters is the amount of airflow. Especially on a phunnels as you don't want to creat a vacuum that will suck the foil down on the center hole.

Small holes = more holes
Bigger holes = fewer holes.

I use the poker on my tongs that has been sharpened to a tapered point. I have one ring of several larger holes over the deepest part of the bowl that goes all the way through the shisha (you Tangiers people know what I'm talking about). Then I have a ring of 18-20 smaller holes around the rim.
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Old May 15th, 2010, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

I use a thumbtack and punch around 30 to 40 holes around the foil. It works for me. Smoke happy.

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Old May 15th, 2010, 12:36 PM
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Does it really matter to poke all the way through the shisha? I dont notice any difference.
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Old May 15th, 2010, 01:29 PM
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Does it really matter to poke all the way through the shisha? I dont notice any difference.
If you are using a phunnel bowl and you are sprinkling the tobacco in there then theres no point in poking all the way down into the bowl. You might want to do that with Nakhla since you would have to pack it tight but with Al Fakher, its packed loose and nicely separated already.
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Does it really matter to poke all the way through the shisha? I dont notice any difference.
What I have seen in demos... if you do that it is suppose to give you more air in your shisha which can be a good thing. But you also wanna make sure the shisha isn't sticking to your poker and your causing the shisha to touch the foil leading to burning your shisha.
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Old May 15th, 2010, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

My Nakhla sticks to the foil all the time and I still don't have any problems. In fact, at the end of a session, unless I'm smoking Zaghloul or other dark moessel, the shisha comes out in one lump along with the foil.
This 'sticking to the foil' bit is overrated.
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My Nakhla sticks to the foil all the time and I still don't have any problems. In fact, at the end of a session, unless I'm smoking Zaghloul or other dark moessel, the shisha comes out in one lump along with the foil.
This 'sticking to the foil' bit is overrated.
+1, my Nakhla always sticks to the foil after a session.
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Old May 15th, 2010, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

if you have bigger holes you are more prone to getting ash in your sheesh, so i usually stick with smaller holes
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Heat is also a big thing to consider here... I have no experience with phunnel bowls. I mainly use vortex and classic egyptian clay. Generally, smaller holes will create more heat and larger holes will create less. It honestly depends alot on what type of shisha you are smoking (and its cut). With HH, i use several large holes and only one coal. HH taste much better with less heat and more airflow. Most other modern shisha's (SB, SS, and JM's for example) will smoke better with more heat and smaller holes. This technique always brings me great results.
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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

Stay far from big holes, you will suck in coal/ash and it can get into your base even if you are using a phunnel or vortex bowl.
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Only if you're using crummy coals (which I don't). And then it's only embers falling in and burning the tobacco, not ash. Ash has no flavor.
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If youre doing less big holes vs. a lot of small holes, i think there should be no noticable difference!
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idont know if its just me but when I poke holes that are to big it looks like the coal ash is getting sucked with the tobacco making it harsh, so I stay with alot of little holes with a thumbtack
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So a lot of small holes should give the same results as a lot of big holes, cause the airflow should be the same, right?
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Old May 16th, 2010, 06:27 AM
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Hey folks

I am packing a bowl of AF right now (funnel bowl) and I wonder if it would make any difference to poke bigger holes? Usually I poke small holes with a pin.
hole size doest matter really,,, wat matters is air flow.... u make few big holes or rather plenty of small holes...
but i recommend to make large amount of small holes so that whn ur coal ashes up, it doest get into ur shisha bowl.....
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Old June 8th, 2010, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

I believe so, I use medium holes spaced evenly and all over the foil so i get a good draw. When I use small holes it kinda gets hard to get a good draw on it!
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Small holes = more holes
Bigger holes = fewer holes.
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Old June 8th, 2010, 08:42 AM
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bigger hole = less
smaller hole = more

all about air flow and heat management.. experiment

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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

I use a kabob stick and poke somewhat larger holes around the side, then two rings of smaller holes inside that. works fine for me
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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

The topic of this thread is "outta context" worthy!

Hole size does matter, for air draw, heat coverage, etc.
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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

i do three rings of holes about 12 per ring, and i use a toothpick for them, very small like a thumbtack size.
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The topic of this thread is "outta context" worthy!

Hole size does matter, for air draw, heat coverage, etc.
like Sam just said, Generally I don't like to use larger holes because it gets ash into the bowl. Which really isn't a big deal I guess, it's just a pet peeve of mine. Vortex I use three rows of smaller holes, no bigger than toothpick(infact, a bit smaller). Same with a small phunnel. For a standard egyptian I just continue with the small holes. Haha everyone once In awhile I'll be creative and make art pieces, like a peace sign, or a C for chris.
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Default Re: Does holesize matter?

I have a lot of small holes, maybe too many compared to you guys.I've found that big holes only give me a worse smoke session with the ash and heat.
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