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Old May 21st, 2010, 08:39 AM
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It could definitely be meditative. Get a complex tobacco and go out into nature and smoke some hookah; you'll know.
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Old May 21st, 2010, 01:48 PM
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It could definitely be meditative. Get a complex tobacco and go out into nature and smoke some hookah; you'll know.
That'd apply to a LOT of stuff you can do in nature. Just sitting there is meditative imo.
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It could definitely be meditative. Get a complex tobacco and go out into nature and smoke some hookah; you'll know.
Buddist monks practice a meditation known as Vapassana, it is a meditative focus on the breath. Would be pretty easy to add a hookah to the equation.

Although you wouldn't want to be hoovering the hose the whole time.
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Old May 21st, 2010, 04:36 PM
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like gandalf when he smoking, i thing he talk about some nakhla here
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Yeah, I'd imagine that at some point in history hookah was part of some spiritual rituals or practices, but I doubt that's still the case. I mean, I do smoke as part of my spiritual routine, but I wouldn't say that it's really a spiritual element any more than the comfy chair I'm sitting in or the air conditioner keeping the room comfortable is.
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Im atheist so... No lol.
AA is almost as fasco-christian terrifying as the boyscouts. and i only say almost because it's for adults with the mentality of children, not actual chronological children.


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I'm a pastafarian (All hail the mighty FSM) and i enjoy adding my hookah as part of it...drink a beer...eat some pasta... smoke some hookah...thats what i HAVE to do every friday
Ra-men!

if the cool weather holds, tomorrow may just well become beer and pho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ph%E1%BB%9F like that... too lazy to try to get the right characters there) day
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AA is almost as fasco-christian terrifying as the boyscouts. and i only say almost because it's for adults with the mentality of children, not actual chronological children.


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Ra-men!

if the cool weather holds, tomorrow may just well become beer and pho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ph%E1%BB%9F like that... too lazy to try to get the right characters there) day
Im not in aa >.> I enjoy my pbr
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 12:06 AM
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^^^ exactly, sorry if there was any confusion. i never meant to imply that you were a member of that 'anonymous society.' sorry if it was seen that way, i was just quoting previous posts from this thread out of chronological order to show my own feelings. just felt like everyone had said what i was thinking, just out of order
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Old May 25th, 2010, 12:44 AM
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This a rather obscure topic that I can add just a little but the question is really what constitutes a narghile within this context. I say that because back distant antiquity and in some rather infrequently traveled portions of Latin America, Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa water filtered pipes are used for shamanistic purposes although they don't bare much resemblance to anything we smoke.

Insofar as real narghiles are concerned I suppose that particularly potent strains of nicotina rustica have been used in shamanistic rituals although I've not heard of such things.

I do know that some rather obscure and mystically inclined individuals associated with esoteric schools within Islam view smoking as conducive to contemplation but it would be wrong to say they view it as somehow spiritual. I do recall that in Turkmenistan I saw locally made narghiles inscribed with Koranic verse but that is a folk custom at odds with Islam as are a great many folk practices that have assumed religious importance. One could look at it the same way that various Christian rituals are best thought of as hold overs from Mithraism, Germanic/Baltic Heathenry and various deceased mystery cults of the Mediterranean.

I have known Mandaeans, Shabak, Yazidi & Ahl-e Haqq/Yārsān devotees and clerics that hold tobacco to be social good and a facilitator of calm reflection and has a result, an asset to pious living. Yet even they don't attach ritualistic significance to smoking and I can't say that my knowledge of those faiths is sufficient to say if those individuals i've spoken to are representative of the theology they maintain.

To me, tobacco is about aestheticism and an appreciation of craftsmanship and contemplation more then anything.
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THIS POST IS BACK FROM THE DEAAAAADDD

But on a more serious note, I see hookah as "fun" and relaxing, but not so much spiritual.

I AM atheist, but even so I feel nothing I could ever construe as "divine" in my smoking, nor do any of my equally secular/opposingly sacred friends.

But I'm sure that somewhere someone thinks they smoke Narghile/Hookah/Waterpipe to get closer to God(s).

That someone just isn't anyone I know
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Old May 26th, 2010, 12:11 AM
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I don't think hookah's;shisha's;narghile's were ever meanth as a spiritual thing. I just think it was the evolution of something they used before the first hookah was invented. Nothing more. I am not saying however that people can't get a spiritual experience by smoking shisha. But I think it depends on the person and what kind of tabacco is used.
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That'd apply to a LOT of stuff you can do in nature. Just sitting there is meditative imo.
Depends on the person. I should have used the word Hajo did, "contemplative".


I'll take it a step further though and say that I think a nice hookah smoke (where you're not moving) and the only thing to enjoy is nature can provide clarity. Tobacco is a stimulant but using a hookah is relaxing. Does that make sense?
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Yeah I think it does. Maby you hit the nail on it's head
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If you're a Christian than whatever you do can become a way to praise to God!
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Im atheist so... No lol.

also an atheist.. no spiritual smoking for me.

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the only way you could make hookah really spiritual, would be illgal to do in the states.
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the only way you could make hookah really spiritual, would be illgal to do in the states.
So why are you mentioning it?
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Old June 8th, 2010, 07:08 PM
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I'm a pastafarian (All hail the mighty FSM) and i enjoy adding my hookah as part of it...drink a beer...eat some pasta... smoke some hookah...thats what i HAVE to do every friday
Love it! A new buddy of mine is a pastafarian. Loved hearing about the FSM
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No he's right, I always feel really in touch with god when I have time to sit down, relax, and smoke a hookah.
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i smoke for jesus!
lol, no, i smoke for taste and the beautiful wisps and clouds
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never heard anything spiritual about it before
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