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Old May 21st, 2010, 03:24 AM
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I've been reading some topics about cooling the water. for thicker smoke etc..
is it mabe a idea to wrap the vase with a freeze gell wine cooler. ( LINK ) To keep the water cool and ice cubes frozen ?
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Old May 21st, 2010, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: Keeping the water cool !

Sounds like it might keep the water colder longer for long sessions...good idea :-D
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Old May 21st, 2010, 03:29 AM
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does it really need to be that cold? lol, I just put a bunch of ice in it, its still ice cold when I pour it out
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Old May 21st, 2010, 03:42 AM
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does it really need to be that cold? lol, I just put a bunch of ice in it, its still ice cold when I pour it out
I know but as the water needs to cool the smoke, the water will heat up.
With a Gell wine cooler wrapped arround it will be cooler for a longer time. and if it's true that the thickniss depends on the water temperature. then this is mabe a idea for people who really want thick smoke for a long time. ?
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Default Re: Keeping the water cool !

I just drop a tray of ice in my base and then add water, put the whole thing in the freezer while I pack my bowl and cook my coconaras. And it stays cold a good 45 minutes.
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Or just use warm water and get stronger flavor.

Cooling the water is highly over-rated in my opinion. A proper set up will smoke cool enough regardless of water temperature, and give stronger flavor.
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Or just use warm water and get stronger flavor.

Cooling the water is highly over-rated in my opinion. A proper set up will smoke cool enough regardless of water temperature, and give stronger flavor.
I agree, i have used the same water for four or more hours and never had a problem of it not cooling the smoke properly.
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Old May 21st, 2010, 04:53 AM
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So it doensn't "really" matter what the temperature of the water is.?
that leaves me the question why do people want to cool it ?
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Old May 21st, 2010, 05:25 AM
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So it doensn't "really" matter what the temperature of the water is.?
that leaves me the question why do people want to cool it ?
Because people are delusional.
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So it doensn't "really" matter what the temperature of the water is.?
that leaves me the question why do people want to cool it ?

Because most people think that if "cool" is good then "ice cold" is better.
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Old May 21st, 2010, 01:34 PM
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because We is Chill like that. hahaha It all depends on me with ice in my base. I have noticed not a big differance whether I have ice water or not. I say save the ice for a drink. I like to use the Ice for a good scotch on the rocks. Any scotch lovers here?
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Default Re: Keeping the water cool !

there's already a product like that called shee-cool. the base has a layer of that gel material in it so you essentially freeze the base.
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Old May 21st, 2010, 01:58 PM
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when I first started getting in to hookah, I was always told ice EVERY time. This is apparently not the case, but I've never tried ice or warm water so I can hardly tell you if there is a difference.
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when I first started getting in to hookah, I was always told ice EVERY time. This is apparently not the case, but I've never tried ice or warm water so I can hardly tell you if there is a difference.
With ice in my base the smoke is slightly cooler, not that it is ever warm with just room temperature water. The major reason i don't do it is because i notice a loss of subtle flavors if the temperature of my smoke drops too much.
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people generally ice for larger clouds and cooler smoke. Same effect can be used by putting milk in the base. I've never been a huge advocate for clouds vs flavor. Flavor has always been key. If for not flavor, why do you enjoy hookah?
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people generally ice for larger clouds and cooler smoke. Same effect can be used by putting milk in the base. I've never been a huge advocate for clouds vs flavor. Flavor has always been key. If for not flavor, why do you enjoy hookah?
So that we can be cool and blow big clouds hahaha. Im the same as you flavor is the reason I got into it.
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Default Re: Keeping the water cool !

I have noticed a difference primarily when a tobacco containing mint is used. The colder water with ice brings out the mint a bit more than un-iced water does. Maybe it's just me but there was a difference between smoking it iced and not. But, with other tobaccos not containing mint I really haven't noticed a difference in flavor with iced water. Since I really don't smoke for clouds I really never paid attention to that aspect of icing the water. I ice occasionally but not very often. Smoke happy.

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I have never tried warm water,I will definitely try it though thankss
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Or just use warm water and get stronger flavor.

Cooling the water is highly over-rated in my opinion. A proper set up will smoke cool enough regardless of water temperature, and give stronger flavor.
That's what I was hinting at from the first post, although I'm guilty of adding ice in the base also.

I'm kinda skeptical to try warm water.. sounds gross to me, but I guess if I don't like it just dump and replace.

But people definitely go overboard with trying to cool the water down...
especially the guy that wanted to put dry ice in there... just wow lmao.
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your'e right, works well
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Default Re: Keeping the water cool !

I should add that the water I use isn't exactly warm. Slightly warmer than room temp usually gives me the best results.

Back in the day when I used a tiny Chinese rig, I would say ice helped smooth the smoke out to some degree, but I was also using sub-par parts in the rest of my setup, so who knows. When I upgraded and went the Khalil route, The length and bore of the stem did a plenty good job smoothing out the smoke without any silly additives to the bottle.
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Try to cool the hose instead of the base, but only if you have a washable, long enough hose!
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