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Old June 1st, 2010, 01:14 PM
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Default Specs of shisha coming out of hose during draw

I smoke out of a 34" KM with an ice chamber. I use tap water in the base and I switch between a phunnel and vortex bowl with 3 coco's and a windcover. No matter what bowl i use, I keep getting specs of something coming out of my hose when i draw it. It tends to happen more with JM's shisha but also happens with Fantasia. I see it building up on the mouthtip and I feel it hitting my tongue when i draw. Is this normal? How can I prevent this?
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Old June 1st, 2010, 01:15 PM
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don't wash a nonwashable hose
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Old June 1st, 2010, 01:16 PM
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No it was the first time I used it and it is washable.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 01:28 PM
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It could be particulates from the shipping and manufacturing process. Twirl the hose around and that should expel alot of it.

If it was a non-washable hose and it was washed the particles are usually rust from the inside metal coil.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Specs of shisha coming out of hose during draw

i never heard of shisha comming through, i have heard rust from a non washable or crap left behind from manufacturing.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 01:31 PM
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There's no way of it being shisha or ash maybe falling down the stem and getting into the hose?
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Old June 1st, 2010, 01:42 PM
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Not unless you arent using water. The stem sits in watter to the ash and tobacco that goes down the stem gets immediately stopped by the watter. If you spill ash into the hose port i could see that i guess.

If you are getting bits of stuff through the hose. Its either pieces of rust Or pieces of the lining of the hose, and you need to get rid of the hose asap.
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If your worried it's something from the bowl or stem, put a diffuser on to help screen things out. Smaller bubbles help with particle filtration.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 02:08 PM
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It's a new hose so I'm gonna wash it real good and see if that helps. It's a KM so it has a bulb thing on the tip of the stem. Haven't tried sticking a diffuser on there yet. Might have to mod it but I'll give that a try too. Thanks guys.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Specs of shisha coming out of hose during draw

Def the hose, I had would have had that problem with the narb had I not cleaned it out very well
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Old June 1st, 2010, 02:52 PM
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Are you entirely sure that it is a washable hose? KM hoses are not washable. I have heard of this issue before and it usually means the hose is deteriorating on the inside due to moisture.

I you have particles coming through the hose it is something from the hose or the hose port. It is physically impossible for tobacco to travel through the stem and the water and then get sucked up into the hose.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 03:01 PM
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Yea I asked one of the reps from thehookah.com and he said that it is washable. I don't feel any metal and it's pretty light so it I'm assuming that it's made out of plastic. It wouldn't deteriorate on the first use.
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Yea I asked one of the reps from thehookah.com and he said that it is washable. I don't feel any metal and it's pretty light so it I'm assuming that it's made out of plastic. It wouldn't deteriorate on the first use.
What kind of washable hose is it?
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Old June 1st, 2010, 03:31 PM
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This is the one i bought:
http://www.thehookah.com/khalil-mamo...um-ice-34.html
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88% sure that isn't washable
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Old June 1st, 2010, 03:36 PM
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Get a magnet and run it along to hose, if it sticks anywhere, and I mean anywhere, it can't be washed
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Old June 1st, 2010, 03:37 PM
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That's interesting. Gonna try that when I get home.
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That's the hose you were using? It looks like a KM pro which is not washable.
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Odd. They say it's a KM hose, but they show one of the Caravan hoses they sell.

IF it is a Caravan, then yes. It's washable.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: Specs of shisha coming out of hose during draw

It's probably not what is at fault, but if you suck on a hose that hasn't been used in a while the particles from the smoke can dislodge and you can inhale them. I've felt and tasted them in my AF hoses.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 04:01 PM
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You could be right Uglybiker. It has that sticker thing on the end of the hose like the one that connects to the stem like the Caravan and the rep from thehookah.com said it was washable. It also has the puff balls on the ends of the handle like the Caravan. The KM pro has only one puff ball near the mouth tip. I'll find out when I get home from work with my magnet. I'll definitely post when I found out.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 05:01 PM
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I tested it with a magnet and there is some metal in there but I also found out that it is a caravan hose. Theres a small label on the hose and I thought it was all arabic but when I looked closely, there's arabic on the top but on the bottom, it says Caravan. So it seems like I was sold a KM Hookah with a Caravan hose. Uglybiker said that Caravan hoses are washable so I guess it can't be the hose. I'm gonna stick a heba diffuser on it and smoke it in a few minutes.
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sounds like a plan
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I tested it with a magnet and there is some metal in there but I also found out that it is a caravan hose. Theres a small label on the hose and I thought it was all arabic but when I looked closely, there's arabic on the top but on the bottom, it says Caravan. So it seems like I was sold a KM Hookah with a Caravan hose. Uglybiker said that Caravan hoses are washable so I guess it can't be the hose. I'm gonna stick a heba diffuser on it and smoke it in a few minutes.
Only the grande caravan is washable. The normal caravan is not. If it has metal in it then the hose is not washable and you are inhaling degraded metal and leather.
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