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Old June 9th, 2010, 12:54 PM
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one night at up at college a few months ago we decided to fill a mya qt base with half water and half vanilla vodka.... the burn was so bad from the exhale that we then decided to dilute the vodka to where it was about 1/4 vodka and the rest water... this was a lot better to where it did not burn as much. however, even though we were all drinking somewhat it did add more of a buzz to the nahkla we were smoking in the bowl... and im sure we did kill more braincells that night than we bargained for.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 02:43 PM
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Old June 9th, 2010, 03:35 PM
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I was in a hookah bar once, and our waiter recommended cherry and rose, and offered to put a shot or two of vodka into the base. It was nice, and the effects were subtle. I'm not sure I'd ever want to use any more alcohol than that, though.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 03:49 PM
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If you mix arak with water in the base when you're smoking tombac or double apple, it'll get you really buzzed. I do it all the time and of course we drink the Arak
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Old June 9th, 2010, 04:53 PM
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i've never really seen any big difference in flavor from changing the liquid in my base, but as far as it being dangerous, i wouldn't call it a risk
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Old June 9th, 2010, 05:38 PM
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i only do this when i buy a bottle that tastes like shit
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Old June 9th, 2010, 05:46 PM
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Hmm.... Just out of curiosity. Is it illegal for a minor to smoke out of a hookah with alcohol in the base?
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Old June 9th, 2010, 05:52 PM
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Thanks you guys! I will just be sticking to my trusty water in the base. It doesnt sound worth the health risk or risk of losing my money. Cheers Everyone!
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Old June 9th, 2010, 08:41 PM
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...just dont put beer or any spirited booze. It will ruin your hookah. I've heard of other people using milk and baking soda and crap like that. Its pretty retarded imo. Your hookah will stink, hard to clean and it can mess up the valves. Water and ice should suffice. Just my 2 cent...
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I've heard of people doing it, but the results weren't noteworthy apparently. They haven't really tried it since the couple of bowls they did.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 11:19 PM
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ive tried it ,, i filled up the base with wyborowa vodka but i didnt like it ,, it was to much alcohol i mean you dont even enjoy it,, its like opening an alcohol bottle from the drug store and inhaling it ,, not worth it,, ive used beer also, altough it wasnt strong it was kinda nasty,, haha u better stick to water if you really wanna enjoy the tobacco flavor
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Old June 9th, 2010, 11:48 PM
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If you want to try alcohol in the base, try diluting it.
Folks who think you get only very little alcohol...well perhaps...however unlike drinking alcohol, when you breath alcohol vapor, it is absorbed almost instantly into the bloodstream. The only faster method would be to inject the stuff intravenously.
When I was first starting out we got the idea to put straight vodka in the bottom. It was a bit (ok a lot) harsh, but all of us were feeling the effect in minutes.
If you want to do alcohol in the base pick something that complements the flavor in the top, and don't use it straight.
AF Two Apples up top, for instance, is quite good with about 5 parts water and 1 or 2 parts Jagermeister or other anise/licorice like liqeur. Absinthe even works.
Delicious...and not overpowering.

Incidentally I read somewhere some of the very first hookahs had all sorts of exotic things put into them (wine, pearls, etc etc) for various reasons often having little to do with taste...it wasn't until tobacco from the (then) New World became widely available that hookah took off.
Or so is my recollection of what I read.
Straight vodka or everclear (or other pure grain alcohol) is not a great idea. It'll smoke harsh, even if the alcohol just came from the freezer, it will overpower whatever flavor you're trying for, and even though it's not as much as drinking, it is going almost instantaneously non diluted (the vapor is pure alcohol) into your bloodstream via your lungs. You'll be drunk before the coals burned out, and drunk people + burning coals + base full of pure alcohol=trouble.
So...if you're going to do it, dilute, so the water can do some work, and you can still enjoy the flavor.
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Old June 10th, 2010, 12:13 AM
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This is what I did once with some friends:

I had AF cafe latte with me and a bottle of Baileys. I have tried to mix like 1/4 baileys and 3/4 water which was a great experience. The Baileys gave a really good flavor to the smoke.
So 1 week later my friend bought another bottle of baileys and this time, he wanted to fill the base with Baileys only. And since he bought the bottle, i can't say no to that, so we tried.
The result was TOOOO STRONG. I couldn't take a long puff because the alcohol was too strong. When i inhaled, i felt as i was taking pure alcohol. So after that i never tried putting the base with only alcohol, i usualy mix it with something with similar flavours to the tobaco. Like example i may mix DA with some red wine... you get the idea.
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sounds like a hoax to me, smoking is passing trhough the liquid you arent drinking it, so seems like it would not do that much!!
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Old June 10th, 2010, 09:54 PM
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No hoax.
Alcohol turns to vapor (and even boils) at a much lower temperature than water. So while water absorbs a lot of the heat from the coals and hot shisha, alcohol does cool to an extent but a lot of it also turns to vapor (to be breathed in by you...).
Give it a shot and make your own decisions. If you want it to be enjoyable I'd dilute a good bit. If you just want to test the drunk-by-hookah theory, throw some cheap vodka or grain spirits in the bottom and smoke away...
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Old June 10th, 2010, 10:28 PM
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Personally I'll say that everyone should try it once, simply for the reason never to get it into your head to try it again.

I've done it with Vodka before and it was a totally stupid thing to do, (edited for content)

Even diluted it's probably one of the worst ideas you can have because of how quickly you get a buzz from the Vaporised alcohol. 2 friends of mine actually collapsed and passed out afterwards.

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Old June 10th, 2010, 11:30 PM
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Based on my (only) trial with pure alcohol in the bottom, I can believe it. Works much faster than drinking.
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I've done it with Vodka before and it was a totally stupid thing to do, (edited for content)

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i have also heard that alcohol gives a buzz but not to sure if i'll try it or if it even works.
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From a medical standpoint, its not how you got the alcohol in your blood that's going to make a difference, its how much. There is no greater danger in inhaling alcohol than there is in smoking alcohol. True, the alcohol will get to your brain faster, but that doesn't have some greater negative affect than the alcohol that reaches your brain after drinking it. One just happens to be a faster way of getting drunk. I can't think if any pathological reason for why inhaling alcohol vapor would be dangerous for your lungs.

I personally stick to water, but I'm a little bit of a hookah purist. To each their own.
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Personally, I think I'd rather just put good, old fashioned cold water in the vase and keep the alcohol in my drinking glass . . . best of both worlds that way. Smoke happy.

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agreed. it sounds just as bad as inhaling spray paint or rubbing alcohol....ehhh
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