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HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

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Old June 18th, 2010, 03:41 PM
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Default HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

ok for the past month i've been having harsh issues! no foil burn, i use 1 and 2 sheets HD sometime 2 or 3 cocos and use foil as mt wind cover sinc its so tall cant fit a reg cover on it! and i cant find a way to get thick clouds and keep it from messin up my throat. im dyin here guys its upsetting!!!!!!! what can i do or should i do its with every damn starbuzz flavor i have(13 of them) makes me want to quit but i have hope i figure it out! i use small pin holes too!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH
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Old June 18th, 2010, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

could you put up some pics of your set up, including your bowl (pre-foil and after).
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Old June 18th, 2010, 03:56 PM
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heres what looks like rightnow
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Old June 18th, 2010, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

I think 3 coals and a windcover is too much heat for starbuzz. Try 1 layer of HD foil, a medium packing and 2 coals.
Or 2 coals then a windcover for the first 3min to help get it started, then remove the windcover. Oh and maybe a little less holes.

I did a light-medium pack with starbuzz fuzzy navel in a vortex with my km for my gf and i and I used 2 coals no windcover. It took a little while to start but after that it was cool thick smoke from once it started to finish.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

Does shiney side down make any difference?

(talking about the foil)
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Old June 18th, 2010, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

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Does shiney side down make any difference?
Varying opinion, I feel that it doesn't.

Lots of people will claim it does, I just have no evidence to prove there is a difference.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

Have you tried a different brand of tobacco?
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

Way to many coals me thinks. Never been a fan of more than 1, 1.5 coals for a vortex. I usually put one on and a half across from it and rotate at the same time. if its still to weak put on your cover. I never use a cover and I can get great clouds out of just about anything after a little bit. It is to harsh, try ice in the base. Also, CLEAN your hookah. If you dont already, clean it very well between each use.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

yeah i clean after every use, no difference on either side of foil ill try just two and cover then remove ad check it out, ill be in touch! thanks!!
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

More or bigger holes in the foil. You're lacking airflow.
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

agree with uglybiker. smaller holes keeps less heat in. i use small holes with starbuzz but i use a ton of holes.
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

try a toothpic instead of a pin and make exactly 36 holes by first making 12 in an outer circle(like a clock) and then two more circles (also like a clock)

this will look like 12 lines of 3 dots


the reason im being so exact is cause with an exact number of holes if you still get the same result we can start changing the number to tweak it, normally you dont have to be this exact, but when your failing it helps to be scientific about it

also it may be that your heating the tobacco up too quickly
starbuzz is drenched in glycerin and is easy to get big smoke out of
try putting on 3 coals for 5-10 minutes but dont smoke it, just heat it up
then take off a coal, and rotate the other 2 and go ahead and take your first puff
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Default Re: HS nam ramsesIII,vortex.starbuzz,coco havin harsh probs, tips??

Less coals. Less foil. Smaller and more holes in your foil. Think of hookah as a fine slow low cooked heat to your tobacco. Just like cooking a roast. You want to use lower heat, and cook it off slowly bringing out all the flavor. The clouds may be smaller, but that is okay. It will go longer, and you won't have the burnt ends. It's those burnt ends that are ruining the flavor when you cook it too hot.
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