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Old February 20th, 2008, 11:10 PM
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Hey!
Well i just got back from my first smoke w/ my new hookah. I smoked a bowl of Nakhla Lemon and Layalina cola.
I used:
30 in egyptian, no air leaks, i've looked
Bowl: clay, 2in wide 1in deep
A screen (i was to lazy to go to the store lol)
and 2 3kings 33mm i think....

The lemon smoked well. I had medium smoke. Wasent to flavorful though. I burned it only after....30 min i think. i rotated the coals ever 5 mins i think. I'm a little ADHD so i can't help but move them around lol.

The cola was worse. No flavor at all and less smoke. Same amount of coals.

I'm pretty sure i pack the bowl well- nice and fluffy.

so any suggestions?
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Old February 20th, 2008, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: Help me improve my smoke?

you most likely used too many coals at one time. usually i use 2 when im in a hurry and want to get that smoke in, and make sure its charred so its easy cleanup.

you fluffed it, thats right...hmmm did you fill it exactly to the top of the bowl with space around the edges?

try using actual foil, if not both a screen and foil. i think the screen might have had something to do with it.
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Old February 20th, 2008, 11:20 PM
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To many coals? I tried the nakhla with one and couldn't get anything. I didn't try it with the other though....

I don't think i had space around the edges, but it was filed to the top.

Yah, i'm deffinatly going to get foil, i was just in a hurry this time.
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Old February 20th, 2008, 11:29 PM
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yeah what i usually do when im smoking with my friends is we just add a bunch of ice and we get THICK THICK clouds that just stay in front of your face
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Old February 20th, 2008, 11:29 PM
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i havent smoked nakhla so i dont know. but usually with everything i smoke it takes ones to get some good smoke.

as for the bowl the space around the edges is for airflow, better airflow better smoke. so try that next time
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Old February 20th, 2008, 11:35 PM
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Ways to improve your smoke.

Heat Management; Don't move your coals unless you have to due to burning/harshness, use a windcover (even indoors, it keeps heat in the bowl, remove when shifting coals after harshness continues.)

Phunnel/Funnel bowls; Invest in one. J&R Hookahs and MNH sells them. I bought mine from J&R for cheap.

Coconut Milk: It works, add a bit, but be sure to wash your gear throughly after!!

Foil: Double your foil, it helps with heat management.

Clothes: Smoking Naked Helps.
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Old February 20th, 2008, 11:46 PM
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Ways to improve your smoke.

Heat Management; Don't move your coals unless you have to due to burning/harshness, use a windcover (even indoors, it keeps heat in the bowl, remove when shifting coals after harshness continues.)

Phunnel/Funnel bowls; Invest in one. J&R Hookahs and MNH sells them. I bought mine from J&R for cheap.

Coconut Milk: It works, add a bit, but be sure to wash your gear throughly after!!

Foil: Double your foil, it helps with heat management.

Clothes: Smoking Naked Helps.
really? that last one improves smoke?! ive gotta try that! :P
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Old February 20th, 2008, 11:53 PM
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Yes and dancing to Spice Girls - Wanna Be (My lover) naked before each hit works too.
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Old February 20th, 2008, 11:58 PM
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Your probably are burning the crap out of the baccy. Maybe your packing too high?

Nakhla is kinda heat sensitive since it is really dry. Just try to put less coals.
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Only if the Spice Girls are dancing naked, too.






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Old February 21st, 2008, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: Help me improve my smoke?

If you see tobacco stuck to your foil after you take it off, it means you've packed to high.
and if you use two 3K 33mm, your bowl better be pretty big. I say you should cut your 3kings in half and use three pieces around the rim of the bowl, it works really well that way
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Old February 21st, 2008, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FURsAKeN
Yes and dancing to Spice Girls - Wanna Be (My lover) naked before each hit works too.
didnt believe it so i had to try it and its true...

as for the harshness like everyone said heat control is a big one there.. if its to harsh with 2 remove one and try it.. u can always add to it later if it doesnt change anything..
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Old February 21st, 2008, 08:33 AM
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Yes and dancing to Spice Girls - Wanna Be (My lover) naked before each hit works too.
This will be the first thing i try!

Ok, thanks everyone. I will play around with all your tips next time i can smoke.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 12:00 PM
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Moisture/Wetness of the Tobacco: Make sure the tobacco is moist/wet, if it's dry it'll burn to quickly and you'll get a harsh smoke. Also, make sure the tobacco packed doesn't exceed the limit of the bowl, make sure it stays UNDER the rim, and that it's loosely packed. To help with this, sprinkle your tobacco into the bowl.

Heat Management/Foil/Coals: I would def advise you to use foil next time, I've personally never had good experiences with screens, although other people have. Keep the shiny side of the foil down, it helps maintain the heat in the bowl. As with the Quick Lights, someone suggest breaking them in half and spreading them around the rim of the bowl, this is an AWESOME technique that creates longer, smoother smoke, and you end up using less coal. Also, make sure the coals are RED when you put them on top of the foil/screen, there shouldn't be any black areas at all, this increases your intake of carcinogens, cancer causing agents, so blow/fan the coals once they are lit to make sure they're RED.

I've added a link to a Tutorial Video on How to Set Up a Hookah, it's made by Sambooka, and it's very informative, I would def recommend that you check it out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k_BCJ1xOQTE

Have a great smoke session man, I hope this post helped. If you have anymore questions, just post them in the appropriate forum, and I'm sure everyone will help you out. Take care.

-Azadi
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