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Old March 5th, 2008, 03:58 PM
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Hey guys. Earlier I asked about Soex and Al Fakher etc. I just wanted to know if there were any herbal molasses or herbal companies that make nicer shisha tobacco than soex but still non tobacco at the same time.
Would be much appreciated.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 04:02 PM
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I think there is another non tobacco called "Black Label" which is made by Hookah HookaH

I'm not too sure if it is better than Soex though
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Old March 5th, 2008, 04:10 PM
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there is also one called high life
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Old March 5th, 2008, 04:42 PM
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What are you trying to gain by smoking herbal? Smoking ANYTHING is hazardous to your health so why not enjoy it with some good tobacco. There is FAR less nicotene in shisha and no tar.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 05:24 PM
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To the best of my knowledge Soex, Black Label and High Life (which you can only buy in Europa) is the full extent of what is available in terms of non-tobacco shisha. They all use spent & crushed sugar cane as a base and they are not "herbal" because sugar cane is not an herb.

You should read the ton of stuff I’ve posted about the poor quality of tobacco research and the fact that the health risks are wildly over-stated. If you consider such things and the fact that moassel works by vaporizing the liquid constituents within the mix with minimal combustion of the tobacco you’ll understand that very little of the “bad stuff” in tobacco is actually inhaled. Also, the real health threat from narhgile use comes from burning the coals which is something you have to do when you smoke “herbal” shisha.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 05:54 PM
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If i were you i would just smoke the shisha with the tobacco! It's all going to catch up with you regardless if it has tobacco in it or not.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 09:24 PM
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What are you trying to gain by smoking herbal? Smoking ANYTHING is hazardous to your health so why not enjoy it with some good tobacco. There is FAR less nicotene in shisha and no tar.

I'm with him. If you are gonna smoke might as well smoke some good stuff. I mean if you are depositing smoke into your lungs your doing damage anyway. So why not have tasty damage?
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Old March 5th, 2008, 10:52 PM
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Black Label is alright... H-S is coming out with an herbal shisha soon, and they are trying to make it as good as possible.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 11:11 PM
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I'm willing to try these "not herbals" out and i'd like to see what H-S comes out with. If they use crushed up sugar cane I can't see the point in bothering much because they can't possibly give a smoke with decent texture nor contribute any taste. If the flavouring is great that would help but crush & spent sugar cane duesn't absorb liquid to well so you'll always get a shorter smoke then what you'd get with tobacco and hence, less value.

Calling Soex herbal is stupid, marketing crap designed to make people buy into anti-tobacco hype. I can't see why anything thinks A) it herbal or b) why it's better then tobacco unless they are just ignorant. If you worry about health be smart and don't smoke more then an hour a day and don't inhale. Just enjoy the taste/textures.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 11:23 PM
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Black Label is alright... H-S is coming out with an herbal shisha soon, and they are trying to make it as good as possible.
Seriously? I never knew b4 ya posted ^_^ I wonder if it is gonna be really good compared to soex and BL. not that I'm gonna try it any time soon anyway :P I'm just curious
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Old March 5th, 2008, 11:34 PM
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It's coming out...Spring/Summer this year i think. I had like a 30 minute chat with the sale's rep because i was really bored.
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