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Old March 23rd, 2008, 09:51 AM
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Hi,

Whenever I make the shisha; it gets really nasty after about 20 mins. When I take the foil off, I can see the tobacco gets stuck to the foil. I tried packing in less tobacco, but it still happens. Maybe it has something to do with too much heat? I use quicklite, often one and half piece.

I really appreciate all your help.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

try using less coal or double up on foil.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

3 layers of foil and 1 40mm ql coal
shisha 3/4 in the bowl

should work try it
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:02 AM
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Does it matter if the tobacco touches the foil? (sorry, I am a newbie )
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

the tobacco mustnt touch the foil!
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:03 AM
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3 layers of foil and 1 40mm ql coal
shisha 3/4 in the bowl

should work try it
Hi,

3/4 in the bowl? I always thought you should feel it as much to the top as possiable. Thanks for the advice.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:04 AM
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the tobacco mustnt touch the foil!
Hi,

Thats what I am doing wrong. Duh! So, if I feel the bowel, say half way, will it still work?
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

do it like this:
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:09 AM
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do it like this:
Wow. Thats all I need. I was packing about twice as that. No wonder it burnt!
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

hehe no problem
try it like this with 2 or 3 layers of foil and 1 coal

have fun!
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

I would put more in than that. I leave maybe a matchsticks width of area between the tobacco and the foil. I use 1 layer of Reynold's Heavy Duty foil. Make sure it is stretched tight so the coal weight doesn't push the foil onto the tobacco. When I used QL's I used 1 or 2 at a time. I rarely ever burned the shisha even when I first started.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

thats the best you can smoke ...
im smoking hookah hookah with about 3g in the head and im smoking about 1 - 1 1/2 hours with this setup
sometimes less is more ^^
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

try cutting the tobacco into little flakes, pack the head, put 2 layers of tin foil light a coul and smoke. when you feel the flaver starts to get burnt and nasty move the coul to the opposite side of the head . the impurtent thing is to make sure that the tobacco is always aird out and not packed tight in the head.
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

also did you acclimate the tobacco?
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 12:01 PM
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also did you acclimate the tobacco?
Is that necessary for Al Fakher?
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 12:11 PM
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Is that necessary for Al Fakher?
not as far as i know. acclimating can help with unwashed shisha brands but al fakher is washed, so it probably won`t make much of a difference.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 12:25 PM
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just try my setup tip, it'll work
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 02:08 PM
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So, if I feel the bowel, say half way, will it still work?
ew...

nah, jk. i'm so used to a funnel, when i went to a hemi bowl to try it out, i overfilled it as well. try using less shisha and less heat. add more heat if the smoke is still thin after 5 mins
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

i would probably work even if you put just a tiny pinch in, cause all your doing is indirectly heating it. it wouldnt last long, but its good for a handful of puffs lol.

filling it half way will work, your less likely to burn it, as long as you put the foil on right, and use less heat. just do one QL and if you have a windcover throw that on, it helps a lot too.

if not, when the smoke is thin either it means your zapped it (meaning its dry as bone) or theres not enough heat, so throw a second on.

what some of the videos people have posted on youtube, i know sam and jilly both have a couple that teach you how to pack a bowl, just search for it youll find something... they know what they are doing,


or if anything, experiment. thats just part of the hookah experience
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

I usually fill to almost the top of the bowl, and then double up on foil. I use 2 3 kings i don't have trouble with burning shisha either.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

yea i was kinda wondering that to guys... my shisha doent really burn but when i pack the bowl to the top i leave enough room so it doenst touch but how many 3k's should i be using....i have the original head from a Mya QT order from H-S whatever the hell bowl that is...lol thanks
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

I guess it depends, judging by the size of three kings maybe 2 ? Generally i've heard ppl say that the more coal the more smoke, less flavour but if u dont want it tasting like an exhaust-pipe i recommend 2 on either side, on the edge of the bowl depending on size.

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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

Here ya go ... Check out this video Donnie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_BCJ1xOQTE
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Old March 27th, 2008, 09:15 AM
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just use 1 layer of reynolds foil or if u have that crappy thin stuff use 2 layers but just keep the foil tight
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Default Re: My tobacoo always burns. What am I doing wrong?

you might be packing it too tight and the tobacco isn't getting good airflow so you are forced to use too much heat to get it to smoke. make sure to sprinkle the tobacco and maybe after you poke holes in you foil blow threw the bottom of the bowl to fluff it.
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