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Old May 9th, 2008, 04:21 AM
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it smells like ketchup....im guessing i got a bad batch? is it still good to smoke?


and the expiration is JUL 2006
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Old May 9th, 2008, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: AF Grape

it may necessarily be a lost batch. let it acclimate a bit and it might get better.

if not, its not entirely unsmokable, kev tried it with mint not too long ago, you might wanna ask him.

wait.... expiration is 06? when did you get that?
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Old May 9th, 2008, 04:28 AM
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i got it 3 days ago

they put the time they made it on the box right? well then it was made in JUL 2006

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Old May 9th, 2008, 04:39 AM
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yeah on the lid it should have pro *date* and then exp *date*

so like my vanilla says produced jan 2008 and exp on jan 2010
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Old May 9th, 2008, 09:35 AM
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They still have issues. People are still finding that even the 08 batches are going bad. And I hate to say but it is not only with AF grape. I just threw out almost 200gr of Golden AF Grapes. It is a Feb08 batch and in less than 6 weeks it has turned and smells really bad. I didn't believe the ketchup smell thing until I got a big whif of this crap. I will never again buy AF grape of any kind.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 11:43 AM
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if the experation date is o6 then it was produced in o4, which means it may simply be expired.The "ketchup" issue didn't arise until the07 production batch so this seems a little odd.
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We had one complaint so far about a bad batch of Al Fakher Grape. We emailed and tried calling Al Fakher but have not gotten a reply back as to what they are doing about this. We will keep you updated if we come across any new information.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 12:17 PM
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This was so dissapointing I even re scored my review for the Golden AF Grapes. 0 out of 10 now.
ps. Good to see you TexasHookah guys again, been a while.
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I doubt Af gives a damn. . I mean, honestly.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 01:38 PM
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I wonder how high the US is on the top list of AF distribution areas.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 01:43 PM
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I doubt Af gives a damn. . I mean, honestly.
I bought some al fakher online last month, was to lazy to go the local store, and I got a bad batch. I a-mailed them and no response to this day. I agree, i don't think they care.
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I bought some al fakher online last month, was to lazy to go the local store, and I got a bad batch. I a-mailed them and no response to this day. I agree, i don't think they care.
thats seriously why i refuse to buy AF. no CS, constant bad batches, just wont do it.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 02:42 PM
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the market in the US for AF is pretty big and the fact that the new batches have improved over the problem batches is indicative that they have tried to remedy the problem. You can't expect a company of thier size to respond to every complaint from individual customers. It's really the vendors who would have more of an impact W/ regards to complaints. I feel.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 05:48 PM
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i talk to the exclusive distributor weekly about this problem, they addressed it as it was a problem months ago that was supposedly resolved. I have sold about 40 boxes just last month and i did recieve 1 complaint. he should be posting here soon, i think it was daking, not sure though
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Has the distributor offered any explanations as to why these batches have been going bad?
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Has the distributor offered any explanations as to why these batches have been going bad?
I don't think they're going bad.I think they were made bad.I heard they tried to tweak the recipe and well,it didn't work out.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 07:59 PM
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I don't think they're going bad.I think they were made bad.I heard they tried to tweak the recipe and well,it didn't work out.

hopefully they are done tweaking because i really want to get some and want to be sure its good
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Old May 9th, 2008, 08:02 PM
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If you want to get some that you know is good, order from mnh.Ramsey texted me the day he got his order from sierra to tell me the grape was a-ok!
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Old May 9th, 2008, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: AF Grape

The bad batch gives a good buzz, but it really harsh sometimes. I chew gum to make it less harsh, but then i go crazy of the buzz.
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I don't think they're going bad.I think they were made bad.I heard they tried to tweak the recipe and well,it didn't work out.
The thing is, some are bad and some aren't.
And, IIRC, the bad batches started showing up right about the time Al Fakher (according to thier website) fired up their brand new 'state of the art' factory.

http://www.alfakher.com/AboutUs.htm#
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Old May 9th, 2008, 10:04 PM
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We'll as I stated, they did fudge with the recipe a bit.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 10:05 PM
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yea i recently got some old boxes and some new boxes...i smoked lemon the date on it was 2007 and it was alright i also have a old box of 2 apple that does not even have a date on it so im prolly going to pass on that
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Old May 9th, 2008, 10:36 PM
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davis, I think you may be overreacting a bit.the problem with af was with the grape.Don't shy away from the other flavors,especially the 2 apples.they have had some problems, yes, but all in all, they are a reputable brand.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 07:21 AM
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yea i dont want to take a chance....2.50 is not that much so ill just toss it out..im sure they are reputable...but its still an old box with no date
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yea i dont want to take a chance....2.50 is not that much so ill just toss it out..im sure they are reputable...but its still an old box with no date
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lol...just try it. dont throw it away first. or at least open and smell it
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