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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:26 PM
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i've just used sum natural bbq coals for about 2 days and they ash(sorry my mistake) like normal coal and don't taint the flavour or have any chemical taste in them.

but i'm not sure about them?

help plzz!!

EDIT ADDED by Sambooka: DO NOT use a BBQ coal, unless you know what you are doing! .. and if you do it MUST be a natural coal, no chemicals, additive, etc

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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:28 PM
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are they natural coal, or like kingsford easy lite?
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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:29 PM
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Umm. Don't ever do it again. BBQ coals release TONS of carbon monoxide, which could kill you! Carbon monoxide is a deadly, odorless, tasteless gas. So you won't even see it coming. That's why on the package, it says to only use in highly ventilated areas.

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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:29 PM
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Wow dude, what ever you do DO NOT use quicklight briquets for your hookah. Only use natural bbq bulk coals. You can end up in the ER for playing around with those chemicals in the quicklight BBQ coals.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:34 PM
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ive used bbq coal, even recently. the all natural no chemical used stuff is fine. best in the west was like a 40lb bag of wood.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:34 PM
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they are like natural coal they take about 5-8 mins to lite
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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:35 PM
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just be careful. i would probably not do it.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:37 PM
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ass like normal coal and don't taint
sorry...had to zero in on that one.

I wouldnt touch anything other than lemonwood or olive wood as for bulk coal.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:39 PM
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you're not the only one I've heard of who uses best of the west coals, I smoked with a friend who swore by them and it was pretty nice.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:42 PM
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DO NOT use a BBQ coal, unless you know what you are doing! .. and if you do it MUST be a natural coal, no chemicals, additive, etc ... I am editing this threads title so as not to confuse any new hookah smokers.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 02:49 PM
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I believe there is a BIG misconception about BBQ coal (and coal in general).
1st of all read this to clear out what charcoal is http://www.howstuffworks.com/question43.htm
2nd there are many kinds of BBQ charcoal.
Natural BBQ charcoal usually heated (at the absence of oxygen)@ about 500C'
Briquettes from the same proccess but have starting agents on them
AND shisha charcoal is heated (again at the absence of oxygen) @ at a much higher temp and for longer so ALL the volatile hydrocarbons and water from the wood avaporates and pure carbon and ash is left. Ash which is minerals such as calcium and potasium which do not burn. Whats left is carbon reacting with oxygen producing CO.
FACT: THERE IS NO COAL THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE CO


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Old May 13th, 2008, 03:11 PM
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they ass like normal coal and don't taint the flavour
I'm thinking with an ass like that it has already tainted the flavor.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 03:19 PM
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prolly means ash....
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Old May 13th, 2008, 03:49 PM
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but its so much better when it says ass instead of ash :P
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Old May 13th, 2008, 05:01 PM
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I don't know about the VOCs in barbecue charcoal. There really is no such thing as a "pure carbon" fuel. All these fuels, petroleum-based or man-made with compressed vegetable matter, are long strings of carbons. For any carbon in the middle, there will be two hydrogens attached and a carbon on an end will have three. Energy comes from breaking the carbons apart and stripping them of their hydrogen. The byproducts are H2O, CO, and CO2 as well as an aerosol of particulates. Shorter carbon trains are "volatile organic compounds"--an example of this is gasoline. As they get longer, they becomes heavier and lose this trait and eventually become solid.

I find the topic of coals interesting since there seems to be very little conclusive information about them and the differences between various products. What shishaholic said about briquettes for hookahs and BBQ being heated to different temperatures may be true; the effect this has on how it burns is something worth discussing. I also am unsure about qualitative differences between "quicklites" and normal charcoals, since I would expect a quicklite is wholly normal coal on the inside with a layer of accelerant on the outside to get it started.

One thing that is for certain is burning charcoal the way we do, with a smoldering ember, is a textbook example of incomplete combustion. The result of incomplete combustion is carbon monoxide (it takes more energy to create carbon dioxide). All coals will produce a significant amount of carbon monoxide. CO isn't a big issue, however, until you inhale it in large quantities for extended periods of time. Whether CO can build up from a single charcoal to dangerous levels in an ordinary closed room is worth exploring.

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Old May 13th, 2008, 05:30 PM
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Here is another knowledgeble member to clear things up.
As for QL, i think they are "activated Charcoal". I dont know about the proccess but this means that the charcoal has been treated in a certain way (with oxygen) to create millions of pores on the surface of the charcoal in order to help the combustion and consistency of heat.
As for CO, i 've read a lot of things but there is nothing clear in the matter wether CO has serious longterm effects and if the amounts inhaled from a single charcoal are significant enough for create these effects. The only known-for-sure effects of CO is dizziness, headache, nausea and vommiting in some cases (prolly as an effects from nausea). In the extreme of inhaling huge quantities of CO could cause instant death but its NOWHERE near the lever of what can be produced but the worst BBQ briquettes. (We are talking about inhaling straight CO gas)

I hope these posts are understandable (and helpful) for the forums and do not confuse people even more.


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i woudldnt risk it AT ALL you can seriously hurt your lunga and body with all the chemicals you're inhaling
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Old May 13th, 2008, 06:18 PM
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I probably wouldn't try it, even if I couldn't find hookah coal for several weeks....
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That is why we always say, STICK to coals RATED for HOOKAH USE on the BOX!
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That is why we always say, STICK to coals RATED for HOOKAH USE on the BOX!
the nour coals i had once were probably worse than bbq coals. they were loaded up with sulfur (big yellow blotches on the ash) and if they were covered in ash and you took a hit, it was terrible.
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I use natural bbq coals every once in a while. they're not that bad, but not that good either...
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Old May 13th, 2008, 09:09 PM
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All coals produce CO but some produce a lot more then others. Coals not made for shisha produce far more CO then you should be willing to put in your body. Please play it safe and use a decent coal like Coconaras or Exoticas
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YOU WILL DIE FROM USING BBQ COALS
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YOU WILL DIE FROM USING BBQ COALS
we smoked from bbq coals for 3 years, even the terrible ones. i really dont recommend it, i feel bad for my body, but you dont die. we just made sure they were fully started without fumes noticeably coming off of them
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YOU WILL DIE FROM USING BBQ COALS
Don't even mess with them! Just STICK to Hookah Rated Coals!
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