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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:42 AM
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My tobacco is burning. No matter how many or few holes I poke, no matter how full or empty the bowl is, my tobacco just burns way too fast and tastes like crap.

I'm a bit of a newb when it comes to hookah so any advice woudl be appreciated

I have a pretty crappy hookah with a small bowl.. could that be the problem?


Oh and I clean the hookah out completely each time I smoke it so that should not be an issue.

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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:51 AM
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Small bowl therefore, you probably have much too much heat.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:52 AM
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"Fluff" the tobacco, make sure there is good airflow. Also watch the heat management, too much and you will scorch the bowl at the very beginning (in other words don't use too much coal).
Watch this video on how to setup made by Sambooka http://youtube.com/watch?v=k_BCJ1xOQTE and also take a look at this for fixing harsh smoke http://youtube.com/watch?v=2zvN1cL1uik


Hope that helps.

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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: What am I dong wrong?

which brand is it? sometimes it could be what you are using. some are extremely sensitive to heat
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Old May 14th, 2008, 01:06 AM
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Thanks for the help guys.

Sabsz I watched the first video already but I'm going to give it a second go.

Raid I'm attempting to smoke some Afzal (mix of lemon-lime and mint). It's not the best tasting tobacco but out of 4 or 5 bowls I've never had this issue with it before. I did acclimate it for a couple hours today for the first time. Might that be the problem?
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Old May 14th, 2008, 01:12 AM
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nah it shouldnt be the prob. the only brand you really need to be acclimating is tangiers. try next time (or right now) using less heat, see if it changes anything
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Old May 14th, 2008, 01:17 AM
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will do. Thanks.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 01:29 AM
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add less coal?
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Old May 14th, 2008, 01:37 AM
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Tried it. Didn't seem too make much of a difference. I think I'll try breaking one of the coals in half and just using that next time though. Thanks for the input scoop.

I think it boils down to the facts that the hookah sucks, I'm still a newbie, and the tobacco I was using is sub par (from what I've been reading).

From everything I have watched/read online I packed the bowl well, the foil was set up properly, and when it started to get harsh i removed the coal.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 02:09 AM
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what coals are you using and how many
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smaller pieces or fewer coals, double up the foil on the bowl, move the coal around every 3 to 5 mins. Heat management is an art honestly. Keep the coals to the outer rim of the bowl. If it starts to harsh, remove coals, purge, then start again but lighter. See my pitiful artwork to see how I rotate coals. Not will use this but it works for me, quite well.
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Kwikwi's artwork is pretty good actually, but personally while the coals are "fresh" I move them out a little further, so they are hanging over the edge and most of the heat is directed onto the rim of the hookah bowl. Like in the video
.. as the coals grow smaller, I move them in off the rim and rotate .. hope that helps!?
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to give it a deep cleaning tonight before I smoke it again.

I'll let you know how it goes!

(seriously this forum is awesome and you guys rock)

oh and for the record I've been using 3k coals.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 08:34 AM
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Glad we can help Chris!

You could try this, break the three kings in half ... and use 3 pieces (1 1/2 coals) and put them in a triangular pattern on the outside of your bowl. Try that tonight, and let us know how it goes ..

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it may be that you're not a newbie anymore after this experience. You may be right with the small bowl being the culprit. You can always upgrade your bowl, but you said your hookah "sucks". It could be time to but a new hookah. At least you are in the right place here. You'll find your next hookah and vendor in no time on this board, good luck!
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Old May 14th, 2008, 10:13 AM
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I think i've actually found it. I"m looking at the sheecool right now but we'll see.
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I think i've actually found it. I"m looking at the sheecool right now but we'll see.
GO for it Chris!!! So we can get some other opinions on it ... I used mine ther other night while watching a movie, stayed cool through the whole movie!
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I can't help but mention that "dong" is in the title and no one else made note of it or chuckled? I know I did! LOL
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And if you can, go with the funnel bowl on your next rig, or your current one if you stay with that.

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These is the bowl that came with my hookah.


Sambooka recommended I order this bowl and it has worked great. I've never had a heat management problem.

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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:40 PM
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Sambooka recommended I order this bowl and it has worked great. I've never had a heat management problem.

Yeah I love that bowl! That is a traditional bowl, that holds a bit more then the smaller ones. Provide an excellent smoke and easy to manage the heat
... I used this bowl last night, I use it quite often, it is my goto bowl
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A friend of mine has that bowl also.. very good bowl, like you've stated Sambooka. It manages heat great so you don't burn your tabacco. Don't forget to break your coal apart into a few pieces and place them around the outer edges of the bowl, like others have said so it gives you the right amount of heat distribution. Enjoy!
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make sure the coal is no longer back, then definitely break it apart if the bowl is small.

personally i'd recommend a phunnel bowl. the juices which hold all the flavor / thickness cannot leak out from a phunnel bowl
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try packing the bowl half way remember a little tobacco goes a long way and using a coal split into 2 but start of with one half and if thers no smoke then add the other half and if it gets harsh ash both pieces of coal and put back one but move it around and purge it.

hope this helps
if it doesn't u seriously need a bigger bowl other wise your money is going to waste
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I can't help but mention that "dong" is in the title and no one else made note of it or chuckled? I know I did! LOL
Damnit it does doesn't it.

Again thanks for all the responses. I'll be trying some of them later on tonight.

Chris
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