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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Can someone tell me what putting two layers of foil on the head does? My smoke has been kinda tasteless and I was thinking it might be because I'm burning it or something.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Double foil

Lately, i always use double foil. This way, instead of heating the shisha by conduction (coal touches the foil, foil touches the shisha), its heated by the air passing from the coals and the through the foil. You get longer sessions, tastier and smoother, to the expense that you need a bit more coal.

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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:44 PM
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If you use heavy duty foil, then you will only need one layer. If not two layers is good, but that is probably not why you are getting a tasteless session. Take a look at the rest of your setup, especially the coals.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:58 PM
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when i wrap my bowl, i use two sheets of foil and with a ring in between them.
the way it works is with one piece of foil over the bowl with holes poked as usual but then i put a .5" tall ring of foil that i fold on top of the first layer that encircles the holes in order to create a large air cushion. then i put a second layer of foil on top of the first layer and the ring and poke holes in it also. it makes for a very good, long smoke and eliminates the possibility of charred tobacco.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:00 PM
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sounds like a sweet idea, ill try that tonight. thanks.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Double foil

i've tried double foil, wasn't a fan. regular single layer foil has worked the best for me so i stick with it.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Double foil

Even with HD foil you still may need 2 layers. It helps reduce the heat transfer so that you have less of a chance to burn the tobacco. As you learn the differences in tobaccos, coals and your pipe you find yourself plagued less by heat issues and less in need of 2 layers.

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Old May 16th, 2008, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Double foil

I think it comes down to bowl choice as well, I'm lazy and just use precut hookah foils and use a single layer on my turbo phunnel with mod and never scorch the tobacco.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Double foil

I think 2 layers of foil is not really neccesary. I cant get any smoke when I use two sheeets of foil even with thin foil. I tried it once and I guess my exoticas dont burn hot enough to power through 2 layers. I have never had any issues with 1 layer of foil, so ima keep doing it that way.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 06:54 PM
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B4 I bought heavy duty, I always double foiled and it worked great imo. Idk why, with one layer of HD for me, the tobacco burns faster compared to two layers. I tried 2 hd, took too long to warm up and it was kinda tasteless.

Idk I think double foil with reg foil works best imo
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Old May 17th, 2008, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: Double foil

I have experimented with double foil, and I cannot tell the difference. Physics: A .005mm piece of foil, will transfer 99.9999% of the heat right through it. The basic purpose of the foil, is to hold the coals away from the tobacco, and create an "air cushion" to moderate the heat of the coals.

My best success, has been to keep just enough hot coal on the foil, to produce a moderate smoke, and to rotate the coals frequently (12oclock, 3 oclock, and so on). If you put too many coals on top, and create a "bonfire", you will burn up the flavor, and the tobacco will scorch,etc.

Try two foils, and one foil, and see. If your smoking session is more enjoyable with two foils, then fine.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Double foil

Single or double foil is pretty much a personal preference, and also depends on what you're smoking, the coals you're using, etc. Try both and see what works best for you. It's just two different schools of heat management.

However, I agree with sabsz that this likely won't fix your problem with low taste.
If you're using a juicy shisha, have you tried stirring it up a bit before you pack it to get more of the juices?
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Old May 17th, 2008, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Double foil

I agree with jilly, 1 heavy duty works for me better than 2 normal foil but either way it beats one layer of standrad foil it seems that heat management is easier for me.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 01:59 PM
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Anyone tried a screen and foil combo?
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Old May 17th, 2008, 02:10 PM
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nah hav u if yes then how was it??
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Old May 17th, 2008, 03:01 PM
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nah hav u if yes then how was it??
I'll give it a try today and post results
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Anyone tried a screen and foil combo?
i do that sometimes and i like it how is. the session seems to last longer but it does take a little more time for the shisha to heat up. i rather use both then just foil
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Old May 17th, 2008, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Double foil

I use double foil when it's the cheap foil that i use sometimes. Most of the time i use reynold's HD, which is probably the best foil out there.
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