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Old June 10th, 2008, 09:20 AM
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i'll be taking that batch you brought in to sierra to see if they can shed some light, meanwhile af has so many other good flavors, and new ones coming in....
I agree.

That pipe flavor was excellent.
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Old June 10th, 2008, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

Well, I just got a little 50g sample from john. the production date is march 2008 and expires march 2010. And It's a ketchup smell. haven't smoked it yet. But I opened up the package and it smells like ketchup. Maybe I will try and smoke a bowl, see what it tastes like.
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Old June 10th, 2008, 01:39 PM
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I got a March batch. It was horriable: dry and without ANY flavour. Thats the last AF grape I buy! Actually, all thier flavour is inconsistant. Sometimes its very good, but more often unsmokable.
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Old June 10th, 2008, 05:10 PM
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All their other flavors smoke fine, but damn this grape.

I have one more satchet and I am going to see if letting it out will change it's smell and flavor.
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Old June 10th, 2008, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

I have 8 boxes man, (I had more, but the other ones busted open so I threw them out) and the one I opened smelled ok for like 5 minutes, then KETCHUPP
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Old June 10th, 2008, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

iight well lets hope i dont get a bad batch i just ordered a load of af from john and one flavor was grape i really wanted to try it.. hopefully its good
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Old June 10th, 2008, 11:15 PM
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no ketchup, no cry
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Old June 11th, 2008, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

my grape reminded me of corn. but give a week or so to "air" out and the bad taste goes.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

Well I bought a batch and it's date is stamped dec 2007 and it is AWFUL. Smells like ketchup and smokes horrid. I was so worried I'd get a ketchupy batch and I did. THAT SUCKS.

I am hoping the batch I get from Nazar will be better. If not we need to do something about this. You can't sell a product that tastes like crap (not saying the vendors, but the distributors who manufacturer the product!)
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Yeah, it just wouldn't be fair to blame any vendor for this mix-up.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

has anyone tried to contact AF about this? Or maybe talk to some store that can contact AF?
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Old June 11th, 2008, 08:39 PM
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i remember reading somewhere (it was probably here idk) that someone tried emailing AF and they didnt reply to them at all.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 12:06 PM
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i just got a tub of af grape today that was made october 2007 and expires oct 2009. ive never had it but when i smelt it from a foot away it smelt like candy grape, and when i moved in it was pretty strong and had kind of a ketchupy smell. is it suppose to smell like pure grape up close? im kinda worried cause i spent 10 bucks :/
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Old June 12th, 2008, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

I actually just placed an order with (supposedly) the main distributor for AF here in the US. They are supposed to be the direct supplier from the factory.
I just tried calling them to ask about the grapes flavor tasting like ketchup, my contact was out in the warehouse, i will call him again tonight.
as soon as i find out their answer about this i will let everyone know.
I ordered AF grapes but if it is going to be the bad batch then i dont want it! hopefully he will have a good answer as to why the grapes is tasting so terrible
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Old June 12th, 2008, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

Thank you for looking into this for us! We appreciate it so very much!

Keep us updated on what you hear and what they have to say! I can't wait , hopefully af can't ignore this.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 07:35 PM
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yeah i tried mine today and it was terrible. i was so excited to finally try it :[ it tasted salty even. weird. stopped after 5 puffs, there was no way it was gonna go uphill.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 07:48 PM
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hopefully we can send it in for a replacement! I have 8 boxes of AF Ketchup
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

A guy PMed me, saying "Thanks" for letting him know about AF Grape, said it was the best he ever had! I don't know what the deal is with all this inaccuracy of flavor taste? Crazy Madness!

Don't give up on AF Grape though, it is good if you get the right batch!
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Old June 12th, 2008, 08:18 PM
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advice to those who get the ketchup smelling grape... dont attempt to smoke it , it makes you sick to your head and stomach right away
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

my af/sierra rep is coming by now and i'm going to give him a ketchup sample that juno brought me. we'll see.
also, 1srgenrex, did you actually buy 8 50g of grape?
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my af/sierra rep is coming by now and i'm going to give him a ketchup sample that juno brought me. we'll see.
also, 1srgenrex, did you actually buy 8 50g of grape?


I bought the big box with 50g boxes in it...some of the bags inside the box busted open so I threw those out, but yes, I actually bought 8 boxes
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my af/sierra rep is coming by now and i'm going to give him a ketchup sample that juno brought me. we'll see.
also, 1srgenrex, did you actually buy 8 50g of grape?
That stuff is brutal, man.
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

yeah. Mine is pretty brutal too. I loaded up abowl the other night and it was so ketchupy smelling, and it tasted so off, it was terrible. I know my heat was right because af is one of my main smokes, but it was so gross i couldnt smoke it for but a few minutes before dumping the bowl. cleaned everything and went to my main smoke af berry and mint and all was right with the world

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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

ok, I finally heard back from my af rep about the bad af grape.

Let me first start off by saying, I have the utmost respect for my af distributor. out of all the companies that i do business with, he is probably the most professional and i always enjoy talking to him about al fakher and hookah hookah.

Now, I called him to let him know i had a customer complain that they received their af grape and it tasted like ketchup and was really rancid, the shisha was so bad that he threw it away. plus it wasn't expired, it was just made 6 months ago.
I asked my dist. if he has heard about this before and why the grape would taste like this.

his reply is that he had heard about this a couple times, but it was only from people who were on the forums. he said that it was a rumor going around the forums. He said he personally talked to a couple different customers about this and had them send the "ketchup" grape to him for inspection. once he received it he sent it back to the factory for tests and everything came back normal, it tasted exactly how it was supposed to. He thinks that all this was a rumor started by one of their competitors to hurt their image. af grape is their number one selling flavor the competition wants to see its sales decrease.
i personally haven't experienced the ketchup grape yet, (i really hope i never do) i have had the good grape and it was very good. this is something that af needs to fix. if customers are saying the consistency of the grape is always different then it has to be true.
I think it is going to take a few more complaints and more bad samples sent back for them to investigate into whats happening with the flavor. af is still at the point where they dont know if its true or all just rumors going around the forums.

but this was the answer i got when i asked about the bad grape, i wish the response wasn't more helpful as to why the grape is going bad or tasting like ketchup.
if anyone receives the ketchup grape, immediately contact who you bought it from and have them contact their distributor.
if this is going to be an issue with the grape then we will stop carrying it, we cant knowingly sell something that may end up making a customer sick or give them a terrible headache.
af is a good brand and a good company overall, im hoping they will do something about the issues with the grape.

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Old June 14th, 2008, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Is the Al Fakher Ketchup still going around?

this is no rumor...Al Faker Ketchup DOES indeed exist
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