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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:09 PM
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I live in Florida, and sometimes i get kids that want to buy a hookah. Is it legal to sell just the hookah, without tobacco to a minor?
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure it isnt but you would have to check Florida's laws.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:31 PM
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I don't think it's legal to sell a FUNCTIONING hookah to a minor. They serve no other purpose besides a smoking device or art piece really. I think it was the Tobacco Control Legislation (TCL) in Florida that made it possible for people under the age of 18 to possess and use, but not purchase. Further research definitely needs to be done.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:40 PM
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Pretty sure you can't. As you can't even buy anything on any vendor site without being 18
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:47 PM
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I hope not, I store my guns in my hookahs...
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:49 PM
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fill the downstem with concrete and sell it to them lol
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 06:28 PM
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They serve no other purpose besides a smoking device or art piece really.
It can make a nice flower vase or a very pretty drinking glass. Just pour some lemonade in the base and sip it through the downstem, like through a straw.

As for the bowl, it makes a cool peanut serving device.

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I think it was the Tobacco Control Legislation (TCL) in Florida that made it possible for people under the age of 18 to possess and use, but not purchase.
Forgive my lack of knowledge, but how does that work, again ? Ask mom to buy cigs and pack half dozen in the lunch box for next day at school ?

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Old February 23rd, 2012, 06:33 PM
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It can make a nice flower vase or a very pretty drinking glass. Just pour some lemonade in the base and sip it through the downstem, like through a straw.

As for the bowl, it makes a cool peanut serving device.
hahahahaha, touche.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 06:35 PM
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thank you everyone for all your responses, most have been very helpful, other just made me laugh hahaha
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Tell them it's an incense burner.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 06:47 PM
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Forgive my lack of knowledge, but how does that work, again ? Ask mom to buy cigs and pack half dozen in the lunch box for next day at school ?
Just one of many of Florida's paradoxical laws. It's legal for people under the age of 18 in state of FL to smoke cigs, hookah, cigars but it's illegal to sell it to them.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 07:29 PM
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It is unlawful for any person under 18 years of age to knowingly possess any tobacco product. Any person under 18 years of age who violates the provisions of this subsection commits a noncriminal violation as provided in s. 775.08(3), punishable by:
(a) For a first violation, 16 hours of community service or, instead of community service, a $25 fine. In addition, the person must attend a school-approved anti-tobacco program, if locally available;
(b) For a second violation within 12 weeks of the first violation, a $25 fine; or
(c) For a third or subsequent violation within 12 weeks of the first violation, the court must direct the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to withhold issuance of or suspend or revoke the person's driver's license or driving privilege, as provided in s. 322.056.

Nope, for minors, it's not legal to sell nor even for them to possess any tobacco products, much less actually use them.

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I think it was the Tobacco Control Legislation (TCL) in Florida that made it possible for people under the age of 18 to possess and use, but not purchase.
I was hoping this would be true just for a quick chuckle at how stupid some law makers can be, but after further research, this is not the case. If this was the law, then minors could have adults buy them the tobacco products and just give it to them in the parking lot.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 07:39 PM
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It is unlawful for any person under 18 years of age to knowingly possess any tobacco product. Any person under 18 years of age who violates the provisions of this subsection commits a noncriminal violation as provided in s. 775.08(3), punishable by:
(a) For a first violation, 16 hours of community service or, instead of community service, a $25 fine. In addition, the person must attend a school-approved anti-tobacco program, if locally available;
(b) For a second violation within 12 weeks of the first violation, a $25 fine; or
(c) For a third or subsequent violation within 12 weeks of the first violation, the court must direct the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to withhold issuance of or suspend or revoke the person's driver's license or driving privilege, as provided in s. 322.056.

Nope, for minors, it's not legal to sell nor even for them to possess any tobacco products, much less actually use them.

I was hoping this would be true just for a quick chuckle at how stupid some law makers can be, but after further research, this is not the case. If this was the law, then minors could have adults buy them the tobacco products and just give it to them in the parking lot.
Well I remember this legislation going through around the late 90's early 2000's, 98-2001, it was the case at one point and is hilariously flawed. It seems it has been changed since then which is good to know. I knew I wasn't going to be up to date to a certain degree, but I'm glad this matter was cleared up.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 08:30 PM
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When I lived in Florida they didn't let me buy any pipes until I was 18. So unless the law has changed in the past 7 years, then it isn't legal.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 08:57 PM
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If you couldn't sell tobacco pipes or smoking paraphernalia to a minor in your jurisdiction then I'd imagine it be illegal to sell a hookah to one.

I know in my county it's illegal to sell tobacco pipes and such to minors, but my friends got away with saying it was a gift for their father and whatnot. I wouldn't risk the legal repercussions should you get caught though.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 11:16 PM
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I live in Florida, and sometimes i get kids that want to buy a hookah. Is it legal to sell just the hookah, without tobacco to a minor?
No its not legal, but who cares. Go ahead and sell it
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 11:21 PM
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No its not legal, but who cares. Go ahead and sell it
If there's ever a sting he'll care quite a bit when he's knee deep in shit for committing a felony.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 11:24 PM
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If there's ever a sting he'll care quite a bit when he's knee deep in shit for committing a felony.
Then he shouldnt sell it to some crappy kid that would rat him out.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 11:38 PM
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Kids smoke cigs and dope in my school's parking lot. The law could care less. My sister would have her boyfriends mother buy her cigs when she was 15.
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Then he shouldnt sell it to some crappy kid that would rat him out.
You are going to want to do two things.
1)Stop encouraging the breaking of a law and the selling of hookahs of minors.
2)Read our rules again.

We do not discuss underage smoking on our forums, legal or otherwise. We do not encourage it in any way. We adhere to the federal laws in regards to tobacco use and tobacco pipes.
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Old February 24th, 2012, 12:09 AM
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Then he shouldnt sell it to some crappy kid that would rat him out.
Or assuming that he's a good decision-maker and somewhat decent with weighing pro's against con's, he just wont sell to minors, period.
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You are going to want to do two things.
1)Stop encouraging the breaking of a law and the selling of hookahs of minors.
2)Read our rules again.

We do not discuss underage smoking on our forums, legal or otherwise. We do not encourage it in any way. We adhere to the federal laws in regards to tobacco use and tobacco pipes.
First off i never said anything about underage smoking. Second if this is such a problem why havent you deleted the thread yet?
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Old February 24th, 2012, 12:59 AM
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I wouldn't risk it. Look at it this way, if businesses aren't willing to risk it, why would you be?
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First off i never said anything about underage smoking. Second if this is such a problem why havent you deleted the thread yet?
I'm going to bold it for you.

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You are going to want to do two things.
1)Stop encouraging the breaking of a law and the selling of hookahs of minors.
2)Read our rules again.

We do not discuss underage smoking on our forums, legal or otherwise. We do not encourage it in any way. We adhere to the federal laws in regards to tobacco use and tobacco pipes.
Now let's just let this thread die and save the mods the trouble of needing to lock/delete it.
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