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Old June 13th, 2008, 03:04 PM
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hey ya'll , I dunno if there is a thread made before about this , But lately I've been having this thing which is bugging me , seems like I don't get the thick clouds I want when I smoke the hookah , strangely I do have heavy- med thick clouds when I smoke it with other people , but when I'm smoking it alone I don't , so Im wondering if there is sorta factor for that or something I can do make it thicker , more cloudy , foggy , I enjoy it more like that , could it be possible that I don't inhale it deeply enough :S
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Old June 13th, 2008, 03:15 PM
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really it comes down to the hookah, the brand of shisha, and the heat.
i have a cheap chinese hookah, and al waha tobacco, which really isnt a great set up for thick clouds, but with two golden quick lite coals, I am able to get some big clouds.
the biggest smoke you will ever see is gunna be with a Khalil Mamoon, Al fahker tobacco, and some natural coals.
also, I have found that if you inhale slowly you dont get as much smoke as if you do a pretty strong deep inhale sucking hard.
hope I could help.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 03:19 PM
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^^I agree totally! My KM with some af or layalina and some square tab coals does the trick every time.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 03:23 PM
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It is Km hookah , and AF tobacco , and always use the same coal , all the same didn'r change a thing , only thing that changes is the smoker lol ,, when I smoke it alone , don't get that nice thick clouds , I tried to put some milk along with cold water as someone suggested on one of the threads here , but still no change .
could it be that I can't inhale it deeply as I used too hehehe
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Old June 13th, 2008, 03:51 PM
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You don't need a km to get thick clouds. I got good clouds with a mya and a standard egyptian. you just need to set up everything right. a good thick hose helps too.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:12 PM
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It is Km hookah , and AF tobacco , and always use the same coal , all the same didn'r change a thing , only thing that changes is the smoker lol ,, when I smoke it alone , don't get that nice thick clouds , I tried to put some milk along with cold water as someone suggested on one of the threads here , but still no change .
could it be that I can't inhale it deeply as I used too hehehe
well what other factors are there?
is it a single hose?
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:20 PM
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If it's a multiple hose hookah, check your hose ports and/or auto-seal. i wasn't getting big clouds by myself, and then i found that the ball bearring in one of my ports wasn't big enough and i was getting some air leaked in to my smoke, causing less of it.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:24 PM
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You may wanna try some different approaches to coal placement and overall heat management...at least when smoking alone. Smoking with a group usually means the hookah is being drawn on more constantly....making keeping the shisha "hotter".
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:27 PM
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I have no clue :S
yep it's a single hose

wait I just realize , Im using the cheap hookah here , I bought after I broke like 2-3 good hookahs b4 lol
I smoke my KM when Im back at home , but my sister smoked on this shit with me when she last came visiting and it was giving a good clouds still . It's like I only get the good thick clouds after someone smokes it with me even when I empty the air flow . maybe this hookah just likes the company ,and doesnt like the lonetic smokers lol

hey Im smoking now same (hose, hookah, tobacco) but i put more amount of tobacco and 2 layers of foil it started to get good clouds out of it , with a help of pcserve , still not as i wanted tho
Arrgh

is there any tricks/tips would help on the heavy clouds thingie
maybe Im missing something , a secrete

dammmiiit , it's not working well
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:32 PM
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I have no clue :S
yep it's a single hose

wait I just realize , Im using the cheap hookah here , I bought after I broke like 2-3 good hookahs b4 lol
I smoke my KM when Im back at home , but my sister smoked on this shit with me when she last came visiting and it was giving a good clouds still . It's like I only get the good thick clouds after someone smokes it with me even when I empty the air flow . maybe this hookah just likes the company ,and doesnt like the lonetic smokers lol

hey Im smoking now same (hose, hookah, tobacco) but i put more amount of tobacco and 2 layers of foil it started to get good clouds out of it , with a help of pcserve , still not as i wanted tho
Arrgh

is there any tricks/tips would help on the heavy clouds thingie
maybe Im missing something , a secrete

dammmiiit , it's not working well
if you want full clouds you better have the bowl all the way full.
also make sure you have enough, and large enough holes in the foil.
try more coals till you get it where you wan it
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:34 PM
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I just took off one layer of the foils and put one more small coal , and now it's working ,,, yessssssss come to me lovely clouds
but i think im gonna burn it sooner

but days earlier , i found it strange that when its about to end , and i starts running out of coal , it gets really yummmy , does this happen to anyone ??
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:36 PM
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I just took off one layer of the foils and put one more small coal , and now it's working ,,, yessssssss come to me lovely clouds
but i think im gonna burn it sooner

but days earlier , i found it strange that when its about to end , and i starts running out of coal , it gets really yummmy , does this happen to anyone ??
if thats happening then your using the wrong coals, cuz that means the coals are giving off flavor, and covering up the flavor of the shisha
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:36 PM
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if you want full clouds you better have the bowl all the way full.
also make sure you have enough, and large enough holes in the foil.
try more coals till you get it where you wan it
Doesn't that will burn it faster ?
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:37 PM
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Doesn't that will burn it faster ?
the faster burning is what gives off the bigger clouds. you cant have both.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:42 PM
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i have a syrian hookah and i smoke some Af with exotica coals.. it get some think coulds.. it depends on the heat and sometimes the flavor like i have gottin really thinker clouds with different af flavors then others..so everything palys a factor..you can get think clouds with a crap hookah quicklights and al waha tobacco jsut play around with the set up.. trust me i know i have done it al waha cherry i got really think clouds.. soo play around with it.. peace good luck
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:42 PM
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if thats happening then your using the wrong coals, cuz that means the coals are giving off flavor, and covering up the flavor of the shisha
maybe . But then i light another set of coal , and its still working , I can taste the falvor really well and better actually then when i started, and when I open up the bowl thinking that it's still there some left , i found it totally burnddd :s crazy as it sounds , it's true .
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:44 PM
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the faster burning is what gives off the bigger clouds. you cant have both.
I think Im greedy then , I want the full thick clouds and flavor and I wanted to be lasting longer hehehe , sometimes I get to mange doing that , but didn't discover the exact technique still .
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:47 PM
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i have a syrian hookah and i smoke some Af with exotica coals.. it get some think coulds.. it depends on the heat and sometimes the flavor like i have gottin really thinker clouds with different af flavors then others..so everything palys a factor..you can get think clouds with a crap hookah quicklights and al waha tobacco jsut play around with the set up.. trust me i know i have done it al waha cherry i got really think clouds.. soo play around with it.. peace good luck

thx , Im trying to discover the technique's that will satisfy me and give wut I want
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:58 PM
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maybe . But then i light another set of coal , and its still working , I can taste the falvor really well and better actually then when i started, and when I open up the bowl thinking that it's still there some left , i found it totally burnddd :s crazy as it sounds , it's true .
what coals are you using?
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what coals are you using?
I dunno if u heard of it ,, it's called cococha .
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You may wanna try some different approaches to coal placement and overall heat management...at least when smoking alone. Smoking with a group usually means the hookah is being drawn on more constantly....making keeping the shisha "hotter".


how do u do the overall heat management ?
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Windcovers work wonders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Default Re: thick heavy foggy clouds facor !!

A ton of people have already given you suggestions. I don't really feel like reading every single post to find a tip to give you that no one else already has. So here goes nothing;

It could be your shisha, some of the major cloud providers are AF and SB, as well as others that I am too lazy to list.

Mmm, Holes in the foil! Make sure they are a decent size and you are getting good airflow, if not you could be bottle neckin' the air circulation, causing weak clouds.

Coals! Make sure you are getting enough heat to the bowl but not too much!

Make sure your bowl is packed right, not too tight, make sure you can get some air!
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Old June 13th, 2008, 08:31 PM
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how do u do the overall heat management ?
this is how I manage heat, this works for me may not work for some.
I have a large bowl loaded all the way.
then follow my simple pictorial instructions!
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Hello HookahBoi,
What you need is A Khalil Mamoon Hookah, Al Fakher or Starbuzz Shisha Cold water with Ice in your base Heavy Duty Aluminum foil Exotica or coconara coals but the big thing here is BUY A NAMMOR OR A RAZAN HOSE it will solve your problem guarunteed!!!
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