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Old June 20th, 2008, 03:24 AM
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Default Ice=bigger smoke??

I've seen people say that iced water causes smoke clouds to be bigger
How does that work??
Is it like, cold smoke= less harsh => less harsh=easier intake => easier intake=ability to draw more smoke => ability for more smoke=BIG smoke??
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Old June 20th, 2008, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

ice cools the smoke, slowing down the molecules, making the smoke more dense + less hot.

at least i think so lol :P
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Old June 20th, 2008, 03:53 AM
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ice cools the smoke, slowing down the molecules, making the smoke more dense + less hot.

at least i think so lol :P
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Old June 20th, 2008, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

yeah, i have a KM on the rocks, and it generates much thicker smoke, and what was surprising me, smoke that is actually cool to the touch.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

I would think alittle of both is at work.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

I think it works too. I never put anything but water in my base, but I posted a thread a while back where I was chewing ice and I took a hit while the ice was in my mouth, and the clouds that came out were astonishing :P.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 07:01 PM
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Old June 20th, 2008, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

Ice is an awesome thing.
I suggest using crushed ice instead of cubes. It has worked great for me, mainly because there is a lot more surface area. My vase is super cold throughout the whole sesh. Try both and see what works for you
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

I try to do a mix of really large cubes and small crushed ones. the crushed ones chill it quick status,while the large chunks keep the cool on for an extended period
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Old June 20th, 2008, 08:39 PM
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I try to do a mix of really large cubes and small crushed ones. the crushed ones chill it quick status,while the large chunks keep the cool on for an extended period
ooooh, i'm definately going to be trying this later.
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

Just don't use dry ice, haha.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

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ice cools the smoke, slowing down the molecules, making the smoke more dense + less hot.

at least i think so lol :P
yup. Keep in mind though, the smoke particles will move slower, which makes them denser, but will also take away a small fraction of flavor
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Old June 21st, 2008, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

I honestly don't think this works, I get the same smoke from both. Although one time I used too much ice and barely any smoke came out.

If you want a lot of smoke, give your tobacco some thermal shock, you can go through a whole bowl in 1 hit and blow out a dragon.

Not only impressive, but it rapes the shit out of your throat!
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

i use ice to make the smoke cooler.. i have never eally noticced much thicker clouds.. i jsut figure its not has hot so i can pull moe.. soo in return im exhaling more.. but who knows im not really a science guy..
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

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ice cools the smoke, slowing down the molecules, making the smoke more dense + less hot.

at least i think so lol :P
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yup. Keep in mind though, the smoke particles will move slower, which makes them denser, but will also take away a small fraction of flavor
Slowing down the molecules? I think somebody was asleep during science class!

The smoke contains a large amount of moisture. The cooling effect of travelling donw the stem and through the ice causes some of that moisture to condense, forming small water droplets. The smoke particles (not molecules) facilitate this as they are the nucleus which the water molecules attract themselves to as they cool. This is virtually the same process that forms fog and clouds.

Ya got yerselves a little cloud generator right there!
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Old June 21st, 2008, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

I think its just really cools down the smoke and it makes the smoke way more smoother.

I think the only reason why it seems a person gets more smoke with ice in the base is because the smoke is cooler. Thus, it makes your lungs not get irritated or anything and it just allows you to take in more smoke.
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

I ALWAYS stick 2-3 ice cubes in my potion with some ice cold water before smoking up, produces some amaaaazing clouds and very smooth smoke. Ice is the way to go!
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

I wonder if anyone has ever used the Hein pint cooler. expensive but interesting.
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

Personally I find using ice is overated, I find very little difference and the smoke is perfectly smooth just using cold water and doesn't leave condensation dripping down the vase leaving a wet spot
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

I don't know about thicker smoke, but ice water DEFINITELY makes for a smoother smoke. It cools the smoke so much that you end up blowing cold smoke. I mean you can FEEL how cold it is when you blow it on your skin. Cold smoke will totally blow your mind the first time you feel it.

Also, cold smoke will actually FALL rather than rise. You can do neat stuff, like fill a cup with smoke. I came up with a neat trick using an ice water hookah, I call it the Ring of Cold Fire. Just blow cold smoke directly down at a flat surface, like the floor. It makes a HUGE ring of smoke that grows larger until it dissipates. Like up to 4 foot in diameter. SRSly.
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

The cold helps condense the air that the smoke is in, allowing for more smoke in a tighter area. This idea also works for sound, a colder area will produce sound louder than a hot area. This is used in car audio competitions everyday, I actually used to have an external air conditioner cool down my vehicle when I did competitions and take the unit out right before I would meter.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

CRAZY!

but yeah, I use ice not because of the "bigger smoke" but more because it makes the smoke less harsh
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Ice=bigger smoke??

All the times I have tried the ice, it really improves the smoke session... but be careful with the cleaning cause as you know, sometimes the ice gets dirt from the freezer and this dirt can get stuck in the vase... so clean very well your hookah (especially the vase) after every ice session if you don't want to buy an special shit to take out that dirt. Good luck!
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