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Old July 15th, 2007, 08:39 PM
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I am stunned. This has to be the worst looking narghile related website I have seen. The psychedelic art work implies that it OPD/Smiley are targeting the stoner market and the selection of products is sub-par. While the prices are often insane (ex. quick lights for 39.95USD) the major draw is Smiley's shisha which comes with no description or reviews at and is available at a mere 5.95USD for a not so generous portion of 15 grams.

I couldn't come up with a worse website design if I tried.

Damn Smiley, what happened?
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Old July 15th, 2007, 08:44 PM
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I am stunned. This has to be the worst looking narghile related website I have seen. The psychedelic art work implies that it OPD/Smiley are targeting the stoner market and the selection of products is sub-par. While the prices are often insane (ex. quick lights for 39.95USD) the major draw is Smiley's shisha which comes with no description or reviews at and is available at a mere 5.95USD for a not so generous portion of 15 grams.

I couldn't come up with a worse website design if I tried.

Damn Smiley, what happened?
smiley sold his soul?
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Old July 15th, 2007, 08:53 PM
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He may have or perhaps he simply has lost his mind I don't know. What I do know is that loudly and wrongly stating he is the only American shisha maker is a great way to get sued.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 09:25 PM
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I think it's ridiculus. I am very dissapointed with his choice of distributor. He is making it appear like something it's not. Plus opd is rude.

I think 89.95 for a damn 45.00 QT is ridiculus along with the 39.00 smiley bowl and the 39.95 quick light coals which suck ass and I wouldnt use them if they were given to me for free........ They ash like crazy smell like butt, and last 20 minutes.

LAME and i call shenanigans on this.

I'm not mad at smiley for trying ot make a buck. If that's what he wants to do, that's his perogative and I hope he does well.. I just can't afford it and I wont be spending my money there. I have a hard enough time trying to scrape up money for the vendors i currently use and their awesome prices and discounts.

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Old July 16th, 2007, 01:40 AM
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I think that something a bit bigger is at stake here then simply a lousy website design and insane prices. Earlier I did not notice it but the site has material that is clearly intended for illegal purposes. Honestly, having a site like that being associated with our hobby is a PR kiss of death for all of us.

After reading stuff in the other forum a couple of days back and finding out about OPD's porn background I was feeling pretty uneasy about the whole Smiley thing to say the least. I think the time for making a stand has come and we simply have to say that associating products clearly intended for illegal substances with shisha is not something that we (narghile smokers in general) can not accept. We have to condemn this sort of thing and consider if an active boycott is needed.

I really would like to hear what anyone else to say about this because this is very serious matter and I need input here.
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Old July 16th, 2007, 09:38 AM
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I'm highly disapointed by the site - very. I don't see why Smiley is selling items (and using suggestive names) for things he knows should be kept at a distance to tradational hookahs (and related products).

It's his choice to try to gouge the n00b customer the prices listed on the site. But to willingly put "drug related" items on the site is teh worse move ever, in my book.

A though did occur to me that this OPD fellow may be the one setting some of the prices, thinking he can jack the $$ for what ever reasons, cuse it strikes me very strange Smiley would do this....

Up until now, I would have considered atleast trying a free sample of the shisha - now, I know I won't. Too much "bad blood" has occured to simply turn the other cheek and forgive.

This whole ordeal has left a bad taste in my mouth - to many unanswered questions and shady dealings. Something werid is up and I'm not liking it, not one bit.
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Old July 16th, 2007, 10:31 AM
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Gah.
That's truly terrible.
Those prices (?)
wow, I mean, where's the justification for that?
Especially considering a month ago they were way less?
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Old July 17th, 2007, 12:53 AM
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Stratospheric prices are not much of a worry to me although they do reflect badly upon seller. Honestly I don't see too many people getting suckered into paying those prices in retail shops let alone on the internet.

I'm starting to think that until "the only American made shisha" line is dumped and the pipes meant for "things other then shisha" are removed telling people to stay away from Smiley products may be a good idea. I think it's a really bad idea associating shisha with the stoner market. Is anyone one else worried about this or am I the odd man out?
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nevermind. I couldn't remember if this was posted. I dunno. like i said before, this is very sad and very lame.
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Old July 18th, 2007, 02:26 PM
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Well, as of today - just visited the site - they have removed the glass pipes and altered the "only" line. But the prices are still sky high:

- $99.95 for what looks like the $15 hookah deal Smiley had
- $750.95 for a Hookah that was orginially listed at 549.95 - both prices completely out of the range of what that hookah is (MYA makes much nicer hookahs)
- Coals are still $39.95 for a box, or $12.95 for a bag of fingers (eek!)

And of course, the 15g Sampler.... *sigh*

Sad, sad day... better, but still far from "buyable" in my book.

And just check out the "order" section - scary as heck! I wouldn't trust my CC info on that site, plus you have to pay extra for Insurance? Ok... wonder if they are using USPS?
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Old July 18th, 2007, 02:36 PM
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Well I think that getting rid of the glass pipes is a big improvement and that was my largest concern about the site. The shisha page still has only American made shisha claim but that legal trouble is for someone else to worry about. I don't think that the psychedelic imagery is something that ought to be one a narghile related website but it doesn't make me angry like the glass pipes did.

The prices are still insane but they don't bother me much as I can't imagine too many people paying them. I suppose that the occasional yuppie might buy his 40USD charcoal and 90USD QT on a whim when they walk into a shop but that is about the extent of it. The shisha will simply not sell at that price very often so I see the whole thing going belly up in less then a year. Man, I sure wonder what happend to the old Smiley.
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Old July 18th, 2007, 02:46 PM
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Whoaa....did not see the order section before....almost thought about doin the sampler as a guinea pig...but forget all that!
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Old July 20th, 2007, 07:18 AM
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Check the site again... it's changed more/again. Now, you can only order if your a wholesalers and then you have to EMAIL/FAX it to him...

But he did finally put some descriptions up for the items...

LOL - I have several websites and NONE of them are nearly as cheap looking as his. And I use WORD and the free editors for the sites to make mine!

*shakes heads*
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Old July 20th, 2007, 07:36 AM
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And they all said that NazarHookah.com looked cheap and crappy.....*puke*
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And they all said that NazarHookah.com looked cheap and crappy.....*puke*
Well that's not nice.
Your site is not cheap or crappy, Mahir. We got your back bro lol.
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What the hell does "Home of the Double Dip" mean?

Still scratchin my head on the whole thing....
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is that similar to the alabama hot pocket J/K (NSFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Old July 20th, 2007, 08:06 PM
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Given that OPD is now only for whole sale it stands to reason that if you buy some large amount of stuff you'll get a 30-50% discount over his retail pricing. To put it another way we can expect wholesalers to pay about what the average consumer would pay. Of course the coals and the 15 gram sample packs would be a good deal more then what the typical consumer would pay but with such a snazzy web design and ordering system i'm sure they will be flooded with business. Anyone want to bet that OPD will revolutionize the industry with such bold, forward thinking marketing techniques and that none of us are savvy enough to notice a great step forward when we see it?
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Old July 23rd, 2007, 07:59 AM
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New delevopement in the Smiley/OPD world - someone on HF came on asking for People's addresses for free samples of something called "Gator Shisha" and then the next page had a strange post from OPD, which looks as if the orginial guy (new poster w/ 1 post) and OPD may be one in the same.

This is now getting scary and very worrisome. Way back in teh beginning before the "shady" deals started up, I emailed this person once - he has some of my contact info and now I'm worried what may become of it.... dang it, I should have know better....
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Old July 23rd, 2007, 11:18 AM
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So on the other forum you can have multiple IDs? That is not so great. Man, OPD is looking pretty shady right now. Buy the way, i've got review I put up for a friend of mine about his review of "the new and improved" Smiley's. While it's not bad it certainly is not worth $6. Check it out as it's pretty good.
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Wow... intersting. I was wondering if anybody had gotten a true "sample" pack. Also sounds like some of the issues with his product still need to be tweaked alittle. And you/he are right about the 15g barely able to fill a bowl - i have a TINY bowl and still able to cram in 15-20 grams. As nice as it would have been to see if Smiley changed anything for the best, I'm not horribly surprised. Bummer...
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Well now isn't everyone glad that i suggested a retailer shouldn't be a mod? It is always about the money no matter how much they say it is not!
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Old July 23rd, 2007, 03:57 PM
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Wow... intersting. I was wondering if anybody had gotten a true "sample" pack. Also sounds like some of the issues with his product still need to be tweaked alittle. And you/he are right about the 15g barely able to fill a bowl - i have a TINY bowl and still able to cram in 15-20 grams. As nice as it would have been to see if Smiley changed anything for the best, I'm not horribly surprised. Bummer...
Basically I felt that since I had nothing but bad experiences with Smiley products (although I bought some stuff from the Narghile Club that went well) it would be fairer to leave the review of the sample to a friend of mine from my club. I figured that since he had no prior experience with Smiley the review would be more honest.

Your right about the sample size in that my smallest bowl holds exactly 15 grams and I know a lot of people that only use medium funnels and other large bowls. Since smoking is a social activity a lot of people use rigs with 2 or more hoses. The sample mentioned in the newest review lasted 35 minutes and with 2 people the session would be too short to be worth the trouble of set up and cleaning. By contrast you can get a fantastic cigar for 3-6$ which would last a full hour or any number of very high quality 45-60 minute long narghile sessions using really great shisha can be had for $1.50-3 so out side of the occasional impulse purchase I donít see anyone buying Smiley products.

Maybe one day Smiley will get everything sorted out but frankly Iím having a hard time seeing how he could ever justify his price.
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Old July 23rd, 2007, 04:00 PM
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Well now isn't everyone glad that i suggested a retailer shouldn't be a mod? It is always about the money no matter how much they say it is not!
You know, when I first came here I was perfectly happy to have vendors or lounge owners as mods. While it true I was very unhappy with the behavior of a particular mod on the other board I tried not to let that influence my thinking on the matter. Now, after all the events over the last couple of months have completely changed my mind. Lounge owners and vendors should not moderate boards dedicated to this hobby.
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Old July 23rd, 2007, 04:11 PM
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Just to let people know, a "Smiley Snack" arrived at my door today - free. I am currently "playing" with it and will be relaxing in the Chat room for a bit.
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I have smoked it and written up my review. Posted in the Review section w/ pictures and a short video.
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