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Old July 2nd, 2008, 08:31 PM
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Australian governement has just , without any warning or notifcation, changed the prices of impoting tax, customs, etc by 400%. so now retail wise a packet of AF 250g used to sell for $22 it will now sell anywhere between $98 to $105. 100's are comnplaining to their ministers etc, but retail and wholesale businesses are shocked, so are consumers.


In my case as you people have been witness too i am starting my online store. Now what do i do? So angry, upset, i dont know what to do.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 08:39 PM
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I'm so sorry. Personally, I can't stand when a government goes and does something this extreme to business and consumers, basically killing an industry.

Bootleg? Postpone business? Last thing you want to do is pay a lot of taxes only to see the tax repealed and see prices plumet after paying a high premium for your goods.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 09:01 PM
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wow that is insane....maybe i'll have to produce "The Shit"
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 09:01 PM
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Another reason why america is so damn awesome...jk.
that sucks. hopefully the gov will lay off and let you run your business.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 09:06 PM
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how hard it it to produce my own shisha? aurstralia only grows the flue cured tobacco.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 09:14 PM
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That's friggen insane! Just whoa! Their crazy if they think people will buy a small amount of shisha for that much
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 09:30 PM
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Do you have a source for this? I'm horrified.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 09:31 PM
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wraggot check your email soon.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 10:16 PM
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first they take your weapons...then they exact the price.

Dont see why flue cured wont do nicely.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 10:25 PM
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how hard it it to produce my own shisha? aurstralia only grows the flue cured tobacco.
I think this might be your best bet. You should be able to get some good ideas here. Best of luck.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 10:26 PM
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wow thats effed up i got mad when cigarettes went up 2 bucks.. that is nuts.. haha like MrBungle said ima start to produce "The Shit"...
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 10:27 PM
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spoke to the customs. basically now for example a 250g packet of AF is assumed and calculated asif it was 250g of pure tobacco. Previously they would only calculate it asif it was i think 15% to 20% tobacco.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 10:33 PM
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production of "the cheap shit" has begun
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:05 PM
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No tobacco is farmed in Australia, cannot even make my own.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:10 PM
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No tobacco is farmed in Australia, cannot even make my own.
order seeds and grow your own.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:20 PM
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The time for revolution has come.

I shall be supporting your cause, brother.

Perhaps when they ban alcohol, the rest of the world will join in.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:26 PM
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Bad new man! but don't worry almost all the time those laws don't last long so why don't you pospose your shop for a while 'til everything gets clear and right. good luck!
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:27 PM
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yout think the business can live of soex
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:33 PM
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i'm still waiting for "the shit" btw. hahaha fuck this sucks. time to go to soex and other 'green' brands
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 12:01 AM
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Years ago I lived in Maryland in the states briefly and had a small engineering company. What killed it is when the state of Maryland decided to increase the unemployment tax by 1800% (yes that is the right number of zeros) and I was no longer able to afford to hire anyone so I left the state. I suppose that the Australian government has decided to ban tobacco by making it too expense to buy legally. What this will do is make tobacco sales an industry controlled by organized crime.


It still shocks me to see that the Western world has become so enslaved by political correctness. I am so thankful to be in a country that preaches very little about freedom but lets you have more it then one that takes away what they praise.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 02:57 AM
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this is bad news for my up and coming business. shutting shop maybe the only option
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 09:30 AM
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Years ago I lived in Maryland in the states briefly and had a small engineering company. What killed it is when the state of Maryland decided to increase the unemployment tax by 1800% (yes that is the right number of zeros) and I was no longer able to afford to hire anyone so I left the state. I suppose that the Australian government has decided to ban tobacco by making it too expense to buy legally. What this will do is make tobacco sales an industry controlled by organized crime.


It still shocks me to see that the Western world has become so enslaved by political correctness. I am so thankful to be in a country that preaches very little about freedom but lets you have more it then one that takes away what they praise.
Very well said Hajo, very well said indeed. I am sure the Australian government's explanation will include something in the form of "We are trying to protect our citizens and especially our children from the dangers of tobacco products", etc. Whatever happened to common sense and letting people decide what is good or bad for them on their own... What is the next step, increase taxes on all of the "unhealthy" foods that the country imports?

I am really sorry for your situation Moezzi, if I were you I wouldn't give up on my plans right away and just ride the storm until things settle down to see how things will actually end...
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 09:36 AM
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damn dude, thats crazy, i'd start rioting at govt. establishments and smash shit up
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 10:13 AM
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I'm still in shock over this. It's ridiculous, and basically killing a whole industry. No one in their right mind will pay ~$100 for 250g of shisha. It'd almost be cheaper to import stuff 250g at a time and not pay tax.

But yeah, has really thrown a spanner in the works of both our businesses, Moezzi.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 11:06 AM
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you should start a bootlegging business and do that shit underground, i bet you'll get rich quick
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