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Old October 19th, 2008, 12:31 PM
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Question .05 or .5% nicotine?

I keep seeing different percent nic. on different boxes, tins, or packages. for example, I'm looking at a 125g tin of Romman cinnamon and it says .5% nic 0% tar on the tin, then when I open it up, on the package it says .05% nic. I'm guessing because inside package is made and packaged in jordan and then the Romman tin is made in the US. I've been told that you can't trust what is on the packages on most imports because their is a different measurement system over there. I think this might be right because all of the tobacco that has its final process in America says .5% and in the US it is a much bigger deal to print legit information on any product. more examples; Sinbad is made in sandiego and it says .3 on the outside. Tangiers however says .5% and Al fakher says .05% nic. So I'm wondering is it foreign versus domestic or is it that different tobaccos actually have different amounts of nic and you should believe whatever it says on the box/tin/package? I've heard that it was mostly .05% but most of the ones made in the US say .5% and one would think since we have stronger content laws (and I don't think a US company would lie and embelish the amount of nicotine that is acutually in their tobac. if anything they would say it has less) that this would be the correct amount. So which one is it? .5 or .05 nic?
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Old October 19th, 2008, 12:55 PM
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its 0.5 g , on nakhla and al waha , probably most of them ...
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Old October 19th, 2008, 12:56 PM
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its 0.5 g , on nakhla and al waha , probably most of them ...
thats like in 50g boxes , so its 1% i think ...
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Old October 19th, 2008, 12:57 PM
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im not positive on this but washed tobacco is .05 and unwashed is .5 but you can just smoke it and find out if u get a nice buzz its probably .5 if barely any buzz or none at all its .05
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Old October 19th, 2008, 12:58 PM
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i'm doubting now ... , i dunno ...
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Old October 19th, 2008, 01:01 PM
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It doesn't matter. I'm sure they don't check the true amount of nicotine in each leaf in a lab. That's an estimate. And i have been smoking for many years, and so far I'm not addicted, but i do enjoy it.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 01:01 PM
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lol

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i'm doubting now ... , i dunno ...

i wonder what tangiers is i did not look on my last package but it must have a lot
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Old October 19th, 2008, 01:05 PM
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After all what does that even mean.

.5% of the total nicotine that was in the leaf previous to washing?
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.5% of the total mass of the shisha mix contains nicotine?

Who knows.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 01:14 PM
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After all what does that even mean.

.5% of the total nicotine that was in the leaf previous to washing?
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.5% of the total mass of the shisha mix contains nicotine?

Who knows.
good question
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Old October 19th, 2008, 01:53 PM
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i got confused like that also,

sometimes is says GRAMS and sometimes it says PERCENT

depends on the brand i guess..
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Old October 19th, 2008, 02:06 PM
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im pretty sure that it would be .5 of the amount of grams in the package.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 04:27 PM
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i thought AF and SB have .05% while tangiers has 3%??
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Old October 19th, 2008, 04:35 PM
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4060 mg of nicotine is lethal to human adults.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 05:04 PM
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4060 mg of nicotine is lethal to human adults.
True .... this means that a bowl of 50 grams of shisha (a large phunnel), 0.5% means 0.25 grams or 250 milligrams which is definitely lethal... and 0.05% is 25 milligrams which is more than half the lethal dose.

I believe there is another factor here, that tobacco is not burnt, just heated. So it might be that the tobacco transferred to ur system is much less than in the case of a cigarette, pipe or cigar.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 05:58 PM
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the lethality level of 40-60 mg that u mentioned is only true when ingested, not smoked.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 08:19 PM
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It doesn't matter. I'm sure they don't check the true amount of nicotine in each leaf in a lab. That's an estimate. And i have been smoking for many years, and so far I'm not addicted, but i do enjoy it.
I agree with Zen.
Some of the .05% nic tobacco gives a buzz, while some .5% nic tobacco does not.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 10:53 PM
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like zen said it really doesnt matter all that much its not really addicting.. like i smoke cigarettes and that addicting.. i can go weeks with out hookah.. soo really the moral is dont smoke cigarettes and smoke hookah.. =P
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It doesn't matter. I'm sure they don't check the true amount of nicotine in each leaf in a lab.
Exactly. Also, the amount of nicotine per tobacco plant is going to vary along with how much nicotine can be washed out which depends upon how long it is washed for. There are too many variables at play to narrow % nicotine down to a solid number.

If the amount of nicotine worries a person, they most likely shouldn't be smoking anyway.
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Old October 20th, 2008, 12:47 AM
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isnt the tar the bad stuff and the nicotine is just the addictive stuff? im not 100% sure i never cared lol
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ya the LD 50 listed from nicotine is ingesting and im to lazy/dont have enough time to find out the inhaled ld50 (if an established one exists). but you have to remember that those are all done by where half of the population would die at that level, and less than 1/2 of the population uses tobacco there fore we probably have higher tolerances for it.

as to the .05 and .5, ya that pisses me off to and it really makes no sense, i dont see how washing the tobacco takes out 90% of the nicotine so i think its just one of those things that is incorrect/weird/what ever. in general though the ones that have the higher content on them are unwashed and will hit people harder, thats not to say that washed ones wont just not as common for them to
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as to the .05 and .5, ya that pisses me off to and it really makes no sense, i dont see how washing the tobacco takes out 90% of the nicotine

Nicotine is miscible in water (soluble in any proportion) in its base form and water soluble in its acid/salt form ..... So extensive washing and changing wash water could let leaves with very little of it.
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hookah isnt less harmful, than cigarrettes ...
there was a test of a german chemistry student, who checked everything in a labor, with his own hookah (an egypt one) and al fakher tobacco.
the result was, that every drag on the hookah contained 5x more nicotin, than a cigarrette. but you blow 90% of it out with the smoke and some nicotin was in the water.
all in all 1 hookah session is the same as smoking a cigarrette. but mostly you smoke with some other ppl (its like sharing a cigarrette with 1 or 2 friends ) and you smoke longer...

for comparison:
the arab tests made some years ago said hookah is 50x as harmful as cigarrettes. but they took about 20g of tobacco for a normal clay bowl and smoked it with ql-coals. they dragged it with a apparat, what dragged like a vacuum cleaner. so the tobacco scorched ... no one would be able to smoke like this ^^

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hookah isnt less harmful, than cigarrettes ...
there was a test of a german chemistry student, who checked everything in a labor, with his own hookah (an egypt one) and al fakher tobacco.
the result was, that every drag on the hookah contained 5x more nicotin, than a cigarrette. but you blow 90% of it out with the smoke and some nicotin was in the water.
all in all 1 hookah session is the same as smoking a cigarrette. but mostly you smoke with some other ppl (its like sharing a cigarrette with 1 or 2 friends ) and you smoke longer...

for comparison:
the arab tests made some years ago said hookah is 50x as harmful as cigarrettes. but they took about 20g of tobacco for a normal clay bowl and smoked it with ql-coals. they dragged it with a apparat, what dragged like a vacuum cleaner. so the tobacco scorched ... no one would be able to smoke like this ^^
thats cool where did you come across this info id like to read the full artical
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Old October 20th, 2008, 11:55 AM
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so what mainstream shishas on the market are washed and which are unwashed?
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ill seach it later ...
but its in german, so i dont think you can read it ^^
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