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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:33 PM
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Default Hard Decession, can someone help me?

I just found out I'm getting a bigger paycheck then I thought! That means...I can spend about 30 more dollars.

Well, my current setup is this -

http://www.thehookah.com/large-3-hos...an-hookah.html

This is my first hookah. I want to make my first smoking experience a really good one.

Right now, I have 250grams of HH comes, and some 50g flavors that came with the hookah.

So, should I

A) Buy the "Buy 5 get 3 free" AF deal from CH and a Razan hose and CH coals
B) BUY SHISHA/CH COALS WITH ALL OF THE MONEY!

So I gues my question is, is the hose worth the money for me! Of course everyone knows the financial crisis now, so this is a important question for me

Now, of course the best thing would to just be not spending the 30 dollars.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

i would go with the first one, but get a different brand. AF has been on a downward spiral of late. My AF Golden Apple was a huge waste of money. after trying it three times in a row with all sorts of changed variables, i just couldnt make it work.

get like a 250g of SB something, a razan and coals.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

I am thinking about getting the razan/shisha/coals. I was thinking though, when I run out of shisha, I'll be...fucked. I wont be able to purcase hookah stuff for a month of two.

So, why would you choose hose over shisha, any major pros/cons?
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

didnt you say option one was some shisha, a hose and coals, then option b was just a crap ton of coals and shisha?

if you don't think your shisha supply will keep up with you then do it that way, but i think that getting a razan is a pretty good investment. and if i get a 250g, it owuld last me a month, and thats if i smoked it like every other day.

i am a pretty light smoker these days, so maybe we have different priorities
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:46 PM
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I would go with the hose option. Those hoses really are great. They have made my smoking sessions a whole lot better. I would rather have a few really good sessions than a lot that are not as good. But that's just me.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

Why would you guys recommend the hose?

And yeah, my 2 options were

Around 400 grams of shisha, hose,ch coals.

Or, around 1 kilo(I think thats 1000 grams, right?) and ch coals.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

deff the first one.. thats all i gota say i bought the buy 0 get 10 free from CH when i first got my hookah and it was probably the best money i spent.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

Does the hose really make that much of a difference? Whats the best hose to order from CH? There are two types of Razans, whats the difference?

Thanks for the help everyone.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

The only difference between Razans is on has fancy stuff on it (The Sultan) and one doesn't. Yes getting a better hose really makes a huge difference.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

the razan sultan has a fuzzy sheath.... but has the same guts

and the new hose allows for you to get a larger amount of smoke with each pull and the pulls come easier. This is the way it was explained to me, i have yet to get one, but i planon it just as soon as i have the money.

Edit: unless you are a really heavy smoker, that 400g should last you until your next buy.... still say that investing in some SB is the better plan than AF... but maybe i am biased.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 09:34 PM
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What is another okay nose? I like the razan..but a 12 inch handle, isnt my cup of tea.

Any other great hoses on CH?
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Old October 29th, 2008, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

Order everything from John. you will save a mint on shipping also he has some of the best deals around. Get a good one hose hookah and a razan. I know from experience that having one razan/ nammor on a three hose with other normal hoses hooked up is not fair to the other smokers. just get a one hose and pass it once in a while.

I would say go stainless for the first hookah but for the 100 buck price tage you can get something much better and get more stuff with john. give him a call. he will help you get the best deal.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

I will definitely not buy another hookah.

Whats the best hose from CH for under 20?
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Old October 29th, 2008, 10:34 PM
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Razan is the best hose on the site. Spend the extra like three bucks over the KM hose and enjoy a hose that smokes wonderfully, is well built and is washable.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

I think Id go with option B... just get yourself a bunch of different shisha to try to see what you like and a bunch of CH coals cuz apparently they are the best coals on the market lately.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 06:02 AM
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Dude AF pwns so ill say option 1
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I would get 50 grams since you are just starting out, see if you even like the Af brand. Option 1 is a good idea, and you definitely need a Razan.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

Can I jump in and ask a question? If you were getting a washable hose would it be the Razan or would you want a different one? Is washable going to make that much difference and why?

Questions I think he is getting to and I am kind of wondering.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 10:39 AM
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Can I jump in and ask a question? If you were getting a washable hose would it be the Razan or would you want a different one? Is washable going to make that much difference and why?

Questions I think he is getting to and I am kind of wondering.
flavor can stick in a hose and make future sessions less enjoyable. Eventually the flavor gets muddy. Washable hoses allow you to run water through them and clean out the old residue.

Hoses are made from leather and metal so the eventually break down from having so much moisture running through them. washable hoses are made to have water passed through them and thus do not break down like this.

Razan and nammor hoses are both high draw washable hoses that look bad ass. I have had a few issues with the nammor that were understandable and easily fixed.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 10:41 AM
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Go with a hose and tobacco and coals. You won't be sorry.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 11:36 AM
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This is the best advice: REVIEW SECTION !
and you will understand why we all say razan razan and razan !
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Default Re: Hard Decession, can someone help me?

I saw that I also saw that everyone seems to love the vacuum cleaner hoses with plastic tips. I may have to go that way to start but I would definitely prefer a Razan hose. They look more like a hose to me. The flavor doesn't build up in these at all?
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In my opinion, there are just so many good reasons to go with the Razan hose compared to others. I don't really like the handles either, but the sheer awesomeness of the hose makes up for that and then some. The diameter of the hose is bigger so the pull is easier. You can get a larger volume of smoke with less effort and the smoke is denser which means bigger/thicker clouds. It's also washable which is really nice. To compare it to my cobra hose that came with my hookah, the cobra has a rather tight draw conpared to the Razan. Also, I let some friends borrow it for a while and they didn't blow the hose out after each use so a bunch of stuff is stuck in it. I have tried to blow it out but it just doesn't work. I can't wash it or I'll ruin the hose. With the Razan you don't have that problem; no little bits of stuff flying into your mouth when you inhale.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 03:18 PM
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I saw that I also saw that everyone seems to love the vacuum cleaner hoses with plastic tips. I may have to go that way to start but I would definitely prefer a Razan hose. They look more like a hose to me. The flavor doesn't build up in these at all?
they can build up, the point of them being washable is so you can wash them though so you don't have that problem anymore
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Old October 30th, 2008, 03:22 PM
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If the wallet is tight man, go with some Nakhla fahkfina fruits / strawberry/ banana/ earl gray. I'm not a big nakhla fan, but you can get a great deal of it for next to nothing, and those flavors mentioned i've found to be rather tasty.
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