Home User CP Browse Members Calendar Register Today!  
Get New posts Faq / Help? Community Menu
   

Go Back   Hookah Pro - Hookah Forum > Hookah Stuff > Hookah Discussion

Hookah Discussion General discussion related to hookah ...

What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

Hookah Discussion

Reply Share
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old November 1st, 2008, 05:55 PM
KasparP
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

My friend wants to start smoking, but doesn't want hazardous tobacco.

I've heard of some stuff that is herbs, no nicotine, no tar.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old November 1st, 2008, 06:04 PM
kingboyb
Status: Offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 1,259
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

There is the Soex brand, which most people here will tell you is dogshyt.
I have heard that Sallaam is much better.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old November 1st, 2008, 06:13 PM
KillerB's Avatar
KillerB
Status: Offline
Hookah Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Albany, Oregon, USA
Posts: 1,277
Send a message via AIM to KillerB Send a message via MSN to KillerB
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

there isnt any tar in shisha. Just look at the labels. And i don't think that nicotine is inherently bad for you. I think the stink about nicotine is that it can be highly addictive and when smoking cigarettes, all the other nasty stuff does the damage. I could be wrong, i am in no way anything resembling an expert. But smoking anythign is harardous to your health... herbs, tobacco or any other substance. Just clouding up your lungs with the smoke is bad for you.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old November 1st, 2008, 06:15 PM
HookahWaffle
Status: Offline
Deleted Per User Request
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,079
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

Quote:
Originally Posted by KasparP View Post
My friend wants to start smoking, but doesn't want hazardous tobacco.
All Tobacco is Hazzardous.
All Smoking is Dangerous.
Tell your friend to either not smoke, or just smoke high quality shisha and enjoy rather than worry.

Last edited by HookahWaffle; November 1st, 2008 at 06:17 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old November 1st, 2008, 06:18 PM
Roflpocalypse's Avatar
Roflpocalypse
Status: Offline
Hookah Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 75
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

Yeah tobacco in itself is just a plant that has nicotine in it, and the amount of nicotine in most shisha's is very low. Cigarettes on the other hand are what has the formaldehyde, and other carcinogens in them. hehe too bad for me I smoke shisha and cigs :P
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old November 1st, 2008, 06:42 PM
Hajo Flettner
Status: Offline
Hookah Legend
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,746
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

At the risk of sounding like a broken record i'll repeat a few things that keep coming up -

1) Anti-tobacco research is filled to the brim with shoddy methodology designed to advance a prohibitionist agenda. While it's apparent that tobacco consumption entails a significant risk it's also obvious that the quality of the "research" is so poor and the risks so exaggerated that the whole field offers very little of substance.
2) The non-tobacco based moassel like stuff IS NOT HERBAL because it's made from spent sugar cane which is not a herb.
3) The real danger from smoking narghiles comes from coals rather then tobacco.
4) There is no reason at all to presume that smoking a sugar cane/honey/glycerin/flauvoring combo with coals is any safer then smoking a tobacco/honey/glycerin/flauvoring combo with coals
5) Tar like substances are are found in the same concentration in faux-maossel as in the real stuff
6) Your exposure to CO will be the same no matter what you smoke given the use of the same rig, hose, coals and smoking method
7) How you smoke is more important then what you smoke. If you want to minimize your risks don't inhale.

As to faux-moassel I know of the following brands: Soex, Black Label, High Life and Salaam. The first 3 are crap and I haven't tasted the last one so I don't know if it's any good.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old November 2nd, 2008, 12:50 AM
mattathayde's Avatar
mattathayde
Status: Offline
Hookah Master
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Richmond/Yorktown VA
Posts: 3,779
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

soex, black label, salam (i think i totally messed up that name but i cant remember what it really is)

honestly though this comes up from times to time and the thing that is always missed by the person who originally asked their friend to look into it for them is that its still smoking, the only difference really is that tabacco has a substance in it that is "Addictive" on a chemical level, other than that there honestly probably isnt much difference between smoking "herbal" shisha vs tobacco

-matt
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old November 2nd, 2008, 02:09 AM
Hajo Flettner
Status: Offline
Hookah Legend
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,746
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

The big difference between real moassel and the fake stuff is that the fake stuff tastes like crap, leaves a nasty film in your mouth because all the smoke is produced by glycerin and the smoke has a think texture.

As to addiction it's addictive in that it is pleasurable and, hence habit forming. In any other sense it's not for all of the pharmacological reasons I've addressed in the past. Those that are interested should read the material i've cited on the matter in the past.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old November 2nd, 2008, 02:17 AM
-FliM-
Status: Offline
Hookah Nut
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Queensland, Australia
Posts: 149
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

Quote:
Originally Posted by KasparP View Post
My friend wants to start smoking, but doesn't want hazardous tobacco.

I've heard of some stuff that is herbs, no nicotine, no tar.
It's all smoking. It's all unhealthy. If he wants a 'green' pass time he needs to keep looking sadly!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old November 2nd, 2008, 01:25 PM
Rob416's Avatar
Rob416
Status: Offline
Hookah Guru
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: New York Long Island
Posts: 2,085
Send a message via AIM to Rob416
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HookahWaffle View Post
All Tobacco is Hazzardous.
All Smoking is Dangerous.
Tell your friend to either not smoke, or just smoke high quality shisha and enjoy rather than worry.
this si tru.. your beter off getting good stuff then worrying.. its not that bad comparied to cigs and cigars.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old November 2nd, 2008, 10:56 PM
III_3_TDS_3_III's Avatar
III_3_TDS_3_III
Status: Offline
Hookah Nut
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CHI-TOWN
Posts: 333
Send a message via AIM to III_3_TDS_3_III
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

the nicotine is one of the best parts of smoking if you wanted to smoke something without it go get some grass and mix it with honey
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old November 3rd, 2008, 02:16 PM
Biloshambles
Status: Offline
Hookah Nut
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 266
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

inhaling smoke of any kind is not good for your lungs, but there are many things in this world that aren't good for us, like fried foods and volcanoes.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old November 3rd, 2008, 02:20 PM
ChronicHookah
Status: Offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South OC
Posts: 3,291
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HookahWaffle View Post
All Tobacco is Hazzardous.
All Smoking is Dangerous.
Tell your friend to either not smoke, or just smoke high quality shisha and enjoy rather than worry.
That's the best answer.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old November 3rd, 2008, 02:43 PM
III_3_TDS_3_III's Avatar
III_3_TDS_3_III
Status: Offline
Hookah Nut
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CHI-TOWN
Posts: 333
Send a message via AIM to III_3_TDS_3_III
Default Re: What Shishas arnt Tabacoo?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biloshambles View Post
inhaling smoke of any kind is not good for your lungs, but there are many things in this world that aren't good for us, like fried foods and volcanoes.
well said
Reply With Quote
Reply Share
Share with your friends on facebook

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
5 worst shishas you have ever smoked Dunkel Hookah Discussion 55 December 4th, 2011 03:26 AM
el ashrey shishas abu ronin Hookah Discussion 9 June 22nd, 2008 07:10 PM
Must have shishas zoomjoo Hookah Discussion 17 May 19th, 2008 10:36 AM
Top 5 shishas vandal smoker Hookah Discussion 16 March 27th, 2008 12:17 PM
WIERDEST SHISHAS YOU SMOKED/SEEN drewskadoo Hookah Discussion 30 March 27th, 2008 07:32 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:26 AM.

Skin Design By vBSkinworks



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2007 - 2012, Hookah Pro Inc.