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Old November 4th, 2008, 03:42 PM
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Default Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

How exactly are you supposed to poke holes in the foil over these types of bowls, should the big open hole thing be covered or not? I figured you should poke holes around it but suction seems to pull the un-poked foil section down over the hole blocking it in the standard funnel bowl without using a mod of any kind.

And regarding the vortex, since it has holes in the stem would no holes need to be poked at all? or over the stem... or not?
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Old November 4th, 2008, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

best advice is to experiment on your own until you find which way is best for you.

try making three rings, then try making squares for your coals, then just poke holes randomly
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Old November 4th, 2008, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

i have tried with and without a hole in the middle of the phunnel and i am on the side of making the center hole. between the suction from your pulls and the weight of the coals, it is impossible to keep the foil from pushing down in the middle and make pulls really difficult.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

I normally used three rings around the phunnel with a tiny hole in the very middle.

I tried the same thing with the Vortex and didn't get the same results, and ultimately got rid of mine.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

Hole in the middle will not help. If your foil is sagging you need to double or even triple wrap. Make it tight, try to get the foil wrapped in such a way it won't come loose easily.

You need to keep the coals well away from the center ring so that the foil doesn't get weighed down and the draw becomes hard. Sit them partly on the outer ring of the bowl in order to take some of the weight off the foil.

I use 3 squares of holes which I sit my coals half on half off, then a few little holes (2 or 3) in between the big squares. Haven't had a bad smoke from my phunnel yet.

Hopefully that helps a bit!

Also, I'd imagine using a 'scalli' mod would make the foil issues non existent, as the hole can't be blocked by sagging coal. I haven't needed to do that yet though.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

I use the exact same pattern for both phunnel and Vortex. Three circles of holes leaving the middle covered. I have yet to have any issue with the foil not being poked over the center of a phunnel.
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Old November 5th, 2008, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

I tried using the glass mod thing from mnhookah and it worked well... The only other issue is that I also have a glass screen I've been meaning to use from mnhookah but it has an opening for the hole o_O not sure how this will work
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Default Re: Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

it depends on the phunnel, some of them have the center to high. if the foil is tight and you still get suck down you can try a hole over it or just put something to keep the foil up under it

i poke 3ish rings around the tobacco area usualy

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Old November 6th, 2008, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

every time we use the phunnel we roll up some foil into a tiny stick like thing, and bend it so it will sit in the hole and keep the foil from sagging. works like a dream. still wanna try out the vortex...
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Default Re: Funnel/vortex bowl foil question

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still wanna try out the vortex...
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