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Old November 19th, 2008, 03:26 PM
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Default Phunnel Mod Idea

I had an idea, an while I have no plans to capitalize on it, it'd be ok with me if someone else did if it's a good idea.

My current glass phunnel mod that I use is ok, but I run into problems with airflow through the bottom of the mod. And without the mod, I have trouble keeping the foil from blocking the air flow.

So my idea, is some sort of wire frame that supports the foil from drooping but still allows air to flow through it. I don't know what kind of material is safe to put in a bowl, but I've used a paperclip under the foil to support it without any apparent ill affects.

Here's a VERY VERY VERY horrible rough paint drawing of what I'm talkin about.

Please give me your feedback.

PS: My paint skills are horrid. I apologize.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 04:09 PM
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I see what you're aiming for there mate, but if your foil is sagging over the hole, you need to make sure your coals stay on the outer 'ring', use some heavy duty foil, and double layer it. I just take a big sheet of foil, fold it tightly in half, flat, then pull it down really tight over the bowl. Ever since I've double wrapped the foil I've had no dramas.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 04:12 PM
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I always try to keep the foil taught as possible. The coals seem to migrate to the center though and eventually cause it to block.

Does doubling the foil make the bowl need more heat?

I'll try it next time I pack it, thanks for the tip.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 07:04 PM
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You failed something fierce. Just use good foil. Dont go for that store brand stuff. From personal experience it sags fast. Just use some Reynolds HD and you will be fine. And make sure you wrap it tight. And if you still see that you are having troubles poke a small hole in the middle when you are smoking without a mod.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 07:11 PM
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Unfortuneatly I just bought another store brand roll of foil. I never realized how expensive it was before.

I tried the two layer thing, and it's working a bit better, still have to use a paper clip to lift it up occasionally but it's alot better than before.

I do usually put a couple of holes above the hole too.

Thanks for the input.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 08:20 PM
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Just remember that giving it that big a space above the hole might mean that the air isn't forced to travel through the shisha at all, it just get's sucked in the foil and down the hole.

The coals 'migrating' habit is normal with hookahs that vibrate a lot. I know my MZ does it. The coals pushing to the center will weigh down the foil and make the draw tighter and harder. In my case, it's noticable enough that when it happens I know to move the coals out again. Normally by the time it happens to me, the coals are only moving because they've burned right down, and are nearly done anyway.

As far as double layering the foil needing more heat? I smoke with 3 ******* hookah naturals on my phunnel every time. Don't know if I could get by with less but it does the job for me. I doubt another .3 of a millimeter of foil will be the difference between needing 2 coals or 3.

EDIT: DO >NOT< PUT HOLES ABOVE THE CENTER OF THE PHUNNEL! Caps for emphasis . It will result in thinner and less flavourful smoke. You're just inhaling air like that, and it won't help at all with your problem. It will only make it harder to notice when it isn't drawing properly.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 01:37 AM
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Here is a million dollar question....how big are the holes you poke and what do you use to make the holes? And is it one of those chinese phunnel knock-offs or is it the AUTHENTIC Tangiers phunnel?
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Old November 20th, 2008, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: Phunnel Mod Idea

At most plumbing stores in the copper plumbing section they have end caps in all sizes. With a little imagination and bending out 3 or 4 places does the job nicely and only costs a few cents.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 09:53 AM
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You mean like when scalli frist made the mod?
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you know ace hardware sells mesh screens for cheap, you can by like an inch of it and bend it and try it out
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Old November 20th, 2008, 10:59 AM
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Here is a million dollar question....how big are the holes you poke and what do you use to make the holes? And is it one of those chinese phunnel knock-offs or is it the AUTHENTIC Tangiers phunnel?
I use a paperclip and try to make them as small as possible. It's an authentic medium sized Tangier's phunnel.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 12:47 PM
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a paper clip eh? Really dude the foil really makes it. Oh and sprinkle the tobacco on the foil before you put the tobacco in the bowl. See when you do this the juices on the foil will burn to the bowl making it stick. This makes the foil harder to sag!
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Phunnel Mod Idea

Like everyone else is saying, just use better foil.

Also the metal from the wire mod might make the molasses get to hot.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 05:20 PM
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Like everyone else is saying, just use better foil.

Also the metal from the wire mod might make the molasses get to hot.
I just make a scalli mod make of foil. It does not make heat management harder!
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 08:43 PM
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some of the phunnels have the middle hole to high so its hard to keep the foil off.

aluminum, brass, copper, steel (NOT GALVANIZED) should all be fine, just what ever you get make sure it doesnt have any zinc added in in the alloy.

honestly it is such a personal adjustment as to what you need and all, its a great idea but its not something every one with the issue could use to fix it

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Old November 22nd, 2008, 10:19 PM
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some of the phunnels have the middle hole to high so its hard to keep the foil off.

aluminum, brass, copper, steel (NOT GALVANIZED) should all be fine, just what ever you get make sure it doesnt have any zinc added in in the alloy.

honestly it is such a personal adjustment as to what you need and all, its a great idea but its not something every one with the issue could use to fix it

-matt
On authentic tangiers phunnels? I know that is well documented with the chinese knockoffs (someone actually sanded down the phunnel in the middle.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 12:03 AM
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On authentic tangiers phunnels? I know that is well documented with the chinese knockoffs (someone actually sanded down the phunnel in the middle.
yep yep, my friends have one that was before the chinese ones even were a thought that has too high of a middle. it was even well pre-lucid

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