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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:29 AM
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I'm doing this test that I got from my teacher and I have to present this in class. The facts between smoking hookah and cigarettes. This is one fact, no matter what you smoke, smoking is still bad for you.

This is for all those people saying that hookah is super worse then cigarettes, well here is my test. I hope you guys will understand.

For this project, I'm using a vacuum and two coffee filters; one will be for the hookah, and the other will be for one cigarette. The cigarette will be tested first, I will be testing the exact time when the cigarette ends then I will use that exact time for the hookah. Just image that the coffee filter is our lungs and the vacuum is the airway to our lungs.


This is how it will be tested for two of the objects.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:51 AM
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This is what you get in your mouth and lungs form cigarettes:

This is for the hookah, using two quick light coals:


This is what you get in your mouth and lungs form the hookah:

I had to take 2 pictures because you can't really see crap in there, it's just wet.


My conclusion is that hookah > cigarettes

EDIT: I hope you guys like it.

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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: Cigarettes vs hookah

It's been done before from members of the forum but not to this extend.
The brown stuff on the 1st filter paper is probably tar, not nicotine.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:59 AM
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Oh, this has been done sorry, just wanted to do this for my school.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 11:44 AM
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It has notbeen done as a full experiment like yours. It was just like "what if i put a piece paper over the hose and do the same with a ciggy" but not timed and recorded like this one.

Imo, you should record the total time you are puffing on a hookah during a session, and the total time you puff on a cigarette for the comparsion to be more fair.

Props on experimenting with hookah.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Cigarettes vs hookah

nice man, though there are many other elements to consider this is a good primary experiment.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 12:20 PM
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why was the filter used for hookah wet? kinda ruins the results
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Old November 30th, 2008, 01:33 PM
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I was wondering that also man, like I tried it two times and it still came out wet.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 02:40 PM
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My guess would be that the vacuum pulls harder over a constant period of time than our lungs do, and he probably pulled some water up into the hose.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 02:45 PM
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In order for such a comparison to be meaningful you'd need to pass all the smoke generated during a session of smoking a narghile across the the tissue. Practically speaking that is really hard to do.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 03:19 PM
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simpsons did it
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Old November 30th, 2008, 05:44 PM
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just for a total outcome you shoudl do a whole session.. but great idea and cigarettes have more crap in them soo there for i still think cigarettes are worse for for then shisha
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Old November 30th, 2008, 06:04 PM
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...for all anyone knows it's just 100% tar. i'm pretty sure that's what it is.
cigarette = actual burning tobacco = maximum tar production
hookah = no actual burning of tobacco = minimal tar production

so as far as tar goes, cigarettes are absolutely worse, and that's what your experiment proves. unfortunately there are tons of other components that supposedly make smoking unhealthy, other than tar.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 06:06 PM
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The other main factor in the damage of smoking to your health is the heat of the smoke.

Hookahs produce smoke thats signifigantly closer to the temperature of the air you breathe when filtered through cool water, reducing the amount of inflammation to the lung tissue.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 06:14 PM
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The other main factor in the damage of smoking to your health is the heat of the smoke.

Hookahs produce smoke thats signifigantly closer to the temperature of the air you breathe when filtered through cool water, reducing the amount of inflammation to the lung tissue.
oh yeah, i've read a bit about this kind of stuff online and it said that the main causes of lung cancer is because of inflammation of the tissue from the hot smoke from cigarettes. the other additives found in chemicals mainly attributes to other complications such as cardiac problems, etc. maybe you can somehow include these 'facts' into your project :P. but then again, nothing read online can be trusted as 100% accurate.
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i smoke both. soo either way im screwed.. haha
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whats difficult for me to believe is that when you model the smoking of a cigarette, there is not much of a comparison to a real-world scenario. a normal cigarette smoker does not smoke a cigarette in one long inhale.

if the was some factor to the model other than that the filter simulates the lungs or w/e i would be more confident and willing to interpret the results.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 07:33 PM
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whats difficult for me to believe is that when you model the smoking of a cigarette, there is not much of a comparison to a real-world scenario. a normal cigarette smoker does not smoke a cigarette in one long inhale.

if the was some factor to the model other than that the filter simulates the lungs or w/e i would be more confident and willing to interpret the results.
That's what I never did. I never did a one long inhale otherwise the time would be about 40 seconds. I did it like a normal person that would smoke a cigarette every ten to five seconds. Also did the same with the hookah, I did a one long inhale, and a normal person that would take a hit from the hookah and they both came out the same. BTW the water did not get into the hose.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 07:37 PM
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this is very interesting, thank you for your research!
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i smoke both. soo either way im screwed.. haha

Yeah so true.....Suck to be you.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 11:42 PM
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I dunno, I had a discussion about this with one of my friends.

No tar gets into your lungs, first off. I have proved this, by sticking a cotton ball in my hose port (clean port), and going through a hole session. It came out clean.

What does come from the smoke is more of an oily residue, I am guessing from the glycerine and flavoring.

Also, alot of brands in America use Water in their mixes. Water, under high heat, vaporizes. This may have something to do with the clouds. Water is also usually the base of the flavorings, so the water may be coming from that as well.

Hookah smoke is denser than cigarette/cigar smoke, and most of the time falls, instead of rises, in a perfect setting (no draft). This leads one to believe that the smoke is denser than the air, and is also cool, therefore not rising like warm water vapor (like boiling water).

I had my lungs x-rayed recently, and have absolutely nothing wrong with them. I do run everyday and keep in great shape, so that may have something to do with it. My friend who smokes cigs wakes up in the morning and is short of breath. That means something.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 01:14 AM
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It is wet because hookah "smoke" is actually mostly water vapor and the filter absorbed it. That is why I am always wary of smoking outside during the winter. Introducing that much chilled water vapor into the lungs while outside seems like it may increase your risks for pneumonia. I am basing that on assumptions and nothing more. Then again I am wary but still do it once in a while. lol
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Old December 1st, 2008, 01:27 AM
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In order for such a comparison to be meaningful you'd need to pass all the smoke generated during a session of smoking a narghile across the the tissue. Practically speaking that is really hard to do.
This is true but one must remember that with cigarettes, you hit more often but smaller drags. When smoking the hookah, the time gap between drags across the entire session is much longer.

His test of sucking with a vacuum non stop for a period of time would skew the results. I would think it would also lead to burnt shisha and a hotter smoke.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 02:49 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtKch...eature=related

It's funny because this debunks a lot of online sources saying that the water doesn't filter out any tar.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 09:17 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtKch...eature=related

It's funny because this debunks a lot of online sources saying that the water doesn't filter out any tar.
Really lends value to the claim of filtration. It may not be much but anything can help lol.
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