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Old January 9th, 2009, 03:56 AM
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Hi everyone this is my first post on the forums here and I really need some help. I just got a new Hookah but im having some problems. Im not getting flavor from the shisha. Ive usually use the set up of 1 quick lite coal and 1 piece of foil. I know quick lites arent the best method but i mean no flavor at all?? Sometimes i can get really fat hits but at the cost of harshness. If the coal is on the outside it sometimes gives flavor but the hits suck. I know im doing something wrong can anyone help?
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Old January 9th, 2009, 04:02 AM
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What bowl and tobacco are you using?
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Old January 9th, 2009, 04:03 AM
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first welcome, second check the vids here on the site for how to set up the hookah- the packing of the shisha is very important and taste before clouds my friend.
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Old January 9th, 2009, 04:05 AM
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this is my hookah. I havent changed anything on it so it has the same bowl etc. Well ive tried both Romman Blueberry and Al Fahker Cherry. The blueberry seems to give more taste at the cost of crap hits. the cherry's hits were huge at the cost of taste it seems like
http://www.hookah-shisha.com/store/pc/configurePrd.asp?idcategory=241&idproduct=1731
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Old January 9th, 2009, 04:06 AM
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Thanks Jay, good to be here. I usually just pack the bowl to the rim. from what ive read and seen it seems to be right. Hard to tell i guess
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Old January 9th, 2009, 04:08 AM
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Well both those brands should produce nice hits and flavor. Nice rig btw. I would also suggest, as Jay did, check out the vids section for set-ups. There's several that show bowl set-up as well.
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Old January 9th, 2009, 04:08 AM
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just make sure there is room in between the foil and shisha and that you are sprinkling the shisha into the bowl not packing it in
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Old January 9th, 2009, 04:09 AM
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Make sure your foil isn't touching your tobacco then. It sounds like you are scortching your tobacco.

Break the quick like in half, on on each side of the bowl and add or remove heat as needed.
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Old January 9th, 2009, 04:11 AM
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Thanks a lot guys. Ill try to work on it and get back to you. One more question while i have you... Which natural coals are the best?
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Old January 9th, 2009, 04:19 AM
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Thanks a lot guys. Ill try to work on it and get back to you. One more question while i have you... Which natural coals are the best?
there are alot of good ones out there, coconaras or excoticas ******* hookah
i actually use and prefer ******* hookah ql
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Old January 9th, 2009, 05:23 AM
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you have a real nice rig to start out with. as to your issue about no flavor, my questions would be did you stir the shisha? are your coals fully lit? goes back to basics, inform us on your routine.
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Old January 9th, 2009, 06:02 AM
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I might just make a video of my set up and you guys can tell me what im doing so horribly wrong
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Old January 9th, 2009, 06:12 AM
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Nice set up bte, i wanna get that hookah but its too expensive.

I suggest cut the quicklight in half and put them on either side of the bowl, this should help with heat management, and dont over pack the bowl
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Old January 9th, 2009, 06:20 AM
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When i remove the foil/coal after about 20 minutes of smoking the shisha looks almost burnt and there is no smell from the shisha. I may be over packing. I always start on the outside and work my way around the bowl. I think i should also try natural coals
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Old January 9th, 2009, 06:31 AM
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well im thinking og mya bowl right ? buy which qls are you using ?
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Old January 9th, 2009, 06:36 AM
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Im using Golden coal
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Old January 9th, 2009, 09:30 AM
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Its not the coal thats wrong. I have been smoking for a couple years and have used all types of coals and QL's are my go to. Its your bowl. Pony up and get a decent sized bowl, also make sure your holes arent too big that you poke in the foil. break that QL in half and put on opposite sides of the bowl, if you have a windcover use it the first 10 minutes to contain heat into your bowl then remove it before tobacco is too harsh. you may need 3 halves of coal to get a bowl going as well. Also, dont fill the bowl to the rim, pack so theres an air gap between your foil and teh tobacco. After you have smoked the tobacco it will appear burnt when you dump it out, thats normal. Keep practicing and you will get it down, try different things. I personally put a windcover on my bowl after lighting the QL's and let it sit for 5 minutes before pulling on the hose, then 2-3 minutes later I remove the windcover until the smoke gets real thin and teh coals are almost dead, then I put the windcover back on to finish up the bowl and keep as much heat in there as possible.
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Old January 9th, 2009, 12:46 PM
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first off damn great lookin hookah, next pack the bowl by sprinkling in the tobacco and leaving 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch between your foil and tobacco, and use a windcover that usually helps out, and practice what ever method works best for you may be different to others.
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Old January 9th, 2009, 02:32 PM
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Those mya bowls (if its the same that comes with the collosus) suck. i couldnt get a proper session out of it without either:
1) buring the tobacco
2) wasting too much of it
3) clogging the holes causing a hard draw

I'd suggest a standard egyptian bowl and splitting the QL in two and putting a piece on either side as others suggested
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Old January 10th, 2009, 12:20 AM
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Thinking about getting a Phunnel bowl and nammor hose. are these good investments?
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Old January 10th, 2009, 12:28 AM
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Thinking about getting a Phunnel bowl and nammor hose. are these good investments?
very good
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Old January 10th, 2009, 01:28 AM
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Its your bowl. Pony up and get a decent sized bowl...
+1 on that! I have an Obelisk, too and the first thing I did was ditch that Mya bowl for a phunnel!
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Old January 10th, 2009, 06:47 AM
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+1 on that! I have an Obelisk, too and the first thing I did was ditch that Mya bowl for a phunnel!

Do you concider the mya bowl small? its about 3-4 times the size of my usual bowl.

i thought it would be a good idea to post a pic of my bowl so...
1st pic is the bowl next to a normal sized lighter
2nd pic is the bowl with 4 coins in it. i measured the total height of the coins and it is about 8-9 mm
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Old January 10th, 2009, 07:41 AM
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Wow thats a small bowl, i think the only prolem you are having is because of the bowl, either get a phunnel or vortex
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Old January 10th, 2009, 07:53 AM
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me? I dont have a problem. I get 1-1.5 hours of fluffy tasteful smoke with that bowl.
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