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Old January 24th, 2009, 04:03 PM
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Default did i get the right glycerine/ technical name for what we use?

ok so if any one has tried to get glycerine they probably know how much of a pita it is to find it just by asking people

so is this the right chemical name "glycerin 99.5 anhydrous"

if so it is in the skin care isle and used to soften your skin

but just want to check this is the right stuff before i use it on my kass super

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Old January 24th, 2009, 04:12 PM
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as long as its vegetable based, you're good to go.
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Old January 24th, 2009, 04:18 PM
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I think that stuff is for topical use only.who knows what that will do to your lungs.Somebody correct me if i'm wrong, I'm pretty sure you want edible glycerine (vegetable glycerine) found at bulk food stores that sell bakery supplies.so what ever you do,don't breath the topical.
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Old January 24th, 2009, 04:54 PM
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I think that stuff is for topical use only.who knows what that will do to your lungs.Somebody correct me if i'm wrong, I'm pretty sure you want edible glycerine (vegetable glycerine) found at bulk food stores that sell bakery supplies.so what ever you do,don't breath the topical.
Yea, i agree your definately going to want vegetable based.
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Old January 24th, 2009, 05:06 PM
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from some quick research i think this stuff is fine, i just want to get some one to give me what is listed on their bottles of glycerin.

it is "USP" glycerin so it meets the guidelines and being basically pure i really think its like being picky over gelatin that is from bones vs it from other sources.

hence why i am asking for the exact chemical/ medical name listed on the bottles that people have, i could care less where it comes from as long as it is the same in the end

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Old January 24th, 2009, 05:20 PM
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ooo more googling gave me that synthetic glycerin is usually propylene glycol and is highly irritating to the skin, and seeing as this is packaged and said to be used on the skin it probably is fine

i still want to check to see if what people have as the name on their bottles

and btw i got it from right aid, right aid brand, and it is "skin protectant Glycerin usp"

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Old January 24th, 2009, 05:53 PM
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Botanical Name- Palm derived
Origin- Malaysia
Extraction- Isolated glycerol fats through an Hydrolysis method
Shelf life- 5 years
Notes- Stores well under dark and cool conditions and is extremely volatile to light exposure.
This variety of Glycerine is suitable for food and cosmetic use and is USP standard 99.7% (the rest is water) with no added stabilizers, preservatives and other ingredients. Specifications
Color- Clear
Odor/Taste- Flat aroma, very sweet flavor resembling syrup.
Glycerol content- 99.8%
Fatty Acids and Esters- 0.3
Specific Gravity- 1.29
pH- 7
Heavy Metals - <5 ppm
Chlorides- <10 ppm
Chlorinated compounds- 0 ppm
Sulphates- <20 ppm
Moisture- 0.13%
Organic Volatile Impurities- None detected
Diethylene Glycol and related compounds- No trace amounts detected
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with looking at that im pretty confident its ok, gona go mix up some kass super and probably try it later

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looking at both, i think you are right.
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seems to be ok, ive been smoking about 20 mins on some nakhla kass super and had to put a bunch of the glycerin and molasses on to rehydrate it up and it tastes fine and dont notice anything weird (knock on wood), but im 99.9% sure this is vegetable glycerin

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right on, did you try making your own shisha yet?
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right on, did you try making your own shisha yet?
no but after this i am planing on doing in this year some time, i just need to get some money so i can order the dry tombiek (sp?) but seeing as im a college student it may have to wait until summer when i can get a job

i also just need to get off my butt and put my stuff up on etsy that i have made, and make a bunch of glass stuff to put up (i do plan on trying to make some small hookah bases this semester so we will see how that works out).

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You work with glass? interesting. do you have any pics of things you've made? by the way what is etsy
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Old January 24th, 2009, 09:49 PM
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You work with glass? interesting. do you have any pics of things you've made? by the way what is etsy
ya im a student at VCU, one of the areas im in is Glass (the other being metal) i dont have any pics really of anything that is very impressive (just bowls and cups and then some more sculptural pieces we had to do for class. but i do have something that is being annealed (you have to cool the glass slowly or else it will break apart at some point, either pretty fast or in like 20 years, but its a random crack that happens for no reason to those looking at it)

i will be putting up a post when i can get a good base blown (hardest part is making it to the right size i need so it fits, not to hard to do but its just getting the skills honed.

etsy is a website for people to sell hand made and found objects (like retro stuff that it cool). kind of like ebay but the maker of the item doesnt get screwed unless they just want to sell stuff cheap (i have seen silver rings that should be around 20-70 bucks being sold for 10 (just the people that do their stuff for fun and just wan to cover costs). then again there are pieces on there that are 3-4 times what they should be sold for but its much better for artists to use since it takes like 1-2 % commission as apposed to galleries selling stuff and taking 50-80%

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taking a look at stuff on etsy right now. pretty cool site!
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taking a look at stuff on etsy right now. pretty cool site!
ya its got some cool stuff but there a good amount of junk mixed in or at least over priced items.

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esty.com ... really cool stuff
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Cosmetic grade != food grade... I'd never try ingesting non-food grade stuff like glycerine (or peroxide as another example. Food grade h2o2 is fine in small amounts, and is purported to even be beneficial. Same with glycerine. Smoking it, otoh, I'm not so sure about being beneficial
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Cosmetic grade != food grade... I'd never try ingesting non-food grade stuff like glycerine (or peroxide as another example. Food grade h2o2 is fine in small amounts, and is purported to even be beneficial. Same with glycerine. Smoking it, otoh, I'm not so sure about being beneficial
are you saying you think since it is cosmetic grade that it is not good to use?

idk what the USP differentiation is between cosmetic and food grade glycerin

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are you saying you think since it is cosmetic grade that it is not good to use?
idk what the USP differentiation is between cosmetic and food grade glycerin
Yes, I am saying I would not ingest anything less than "food-grade" cos cosmetic grade has impurities and is not meant to be ingested. You can ask a pharmacist about getting food-grade glycerin, they usually sell it from behind the counter.
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Hookah Pro Forum - (BIGGEST and BEST HOOKAH FORUM) > Hookah Stuff > Hookah Discussion glycerine
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the thread link doesnt work on that but i think you were trying to direct me to http://www.hookahpro.com/forum/showt...light=glycerin yes/no?
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problem solved, emailed USP (United states pharmacological) who certifies everything. we will see what they say

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the thread link doesnt work on that but i think you were trying to direct me to http://www.hookahpro.com/forum/showt...light=glycerin yes/no?
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it should work if you click the folder beside glycerine.
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it should work if you click the folder beside glycerine.
your right

ya basically no good answer, jilly seems to be using the same stuff i am and she is still alive, i will let you know what USP says

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