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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:31 PM
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I am planning on opening a hookah lounge here in Phoenix in the next year, but I have realized that I am not all that familiar with all the brands and flavors of shisha, and I want to be an expert at what I sell.

I decided I am going to open a online store, selling a few hookahs, but mainly keeping it to shisha and coals. I am going to keep it small, but still offer a wide variety of shisha, coals, and hookahs.

I am looking to see what you guys think I should stock for flavors?

Here is a Tentative Price List:

Nakhla 250g - $6.75
Al-Waha 250g - $8.00
Layalina 250g - $9.50
Al-Fakher 250g - $9.75
Golden Al-Fakher 250g - $11
Starbuzz 100g - $10
Starbuzz 250g - $17.50

What do you guys think? Any suggestions?
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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:34 PM
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Drop the Al-Waha and sell Salloum!
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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:35 PM
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The prices are on par with other online retailers.

What i look for in a online seller,

1. good range of products like pipes, bowls, etc etc
2. price(and if they offer a discount)- obviously should be low as possible
3. service/ reputation- stay in touch with online communities
4. shipping charge keep it a flat rate if possible
5. freebies they give
6.have a decent slection of hookahs, no chinese stuff but syriuans km and mya's if possible
7. e-mail responce, available to call, msn if possible
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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:39 PM
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The prices are on par with other online retailers.

What i look for in a online seller,

1. good range of products like pipes, bowls, etc etc
2. price(and if they offer a discount)- obviously should be low as possible
3. service/ reputation- stay in touch with online communities
4. shipping charge keep it a flat rate if possible
5. freebies they give
6.have a decent slection of hookahs, no chinese stuff but syriuans km and mya's if possible
7. e-mail responce, available to call, msn if possible
I am restricting the shop to sell mainly shisha and coals, I will only have a small variety of hookahs at any given time. (~5).

I am pricing my items slightly lower than some major online retailers I have found.

What sort of freebies would you expect? I was thinking of throwing a roll of quick lights in with purchases over $20 or something, not sure how I would do that yet.

I am only going to sell Mya's for the hookahs.

I am on my computer 15-20 hours a day, response would be within hours.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:46 PM
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If selling mya's get the QT and bambino they should sell well, and maybe some KM's, i like going to a website that sells KM's and syrians because that shows they look for quality rigs.

freebies like some samplers of shisha, this way if someone likes the flavour they will be back for more of it, and cards posters etc aren't bad either
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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:57 PM
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If selling mya's get the QT and bambino they should sell well, and maybe some KM's, i like going to a website that sells KM's and syrians because that shows they look for quality rigs.

freebies like some samplers of shisha, this way if someone likes the flavour they will be back for more of it, and cards posters etc aren't bad either
I was going to sell the QT and the Orb maybe? I love the QT.

I might just throw in a 50g box of shisha with each order.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 06:08 PM
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i'd be interested in going to the hookah lounge in Phx... cause i live in the metro area of AZ so it wouldn't be far of a drive.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 06:16 PM
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for the hookahs u should sell sell the mya mini acrylic and the qt (just cuz theres some size difference and i think ppl like that) and def see if u can get any KM's MZ's or Syrians. get as many possible flavors as possible i would say or just order a bunch for urself smoke it and see which ones u like the most and sell those. i havent tried many of these brands that u have up but i like fantasia(pink lemonade,rasberry lemonade,pumpkin spice,blueberry,margarita,and others but these are just the ones i like the most haha. oh and def. get them in the 50g boxes and 100g tubs!) ok u gotta drop the waha cuz its bad, unless its extremely fresh! good idea with the free 50g box or coals. what kinda coals were u planning on getting? im also interested in the lounge cuz i live in mesa and it might not be too far from me. P.S. sell phunnel and clay bowls and nammor hoses lol

WOW long post haha
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Old January 29th, 2009, 06:19 PM
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I am looking at the area around 7th St and Bell.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 06:22 PM
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for the hookahs u should sell sell the mya mini acrylic and the qt (just cuz theres some size difference and i think ppl like that) and def see if u can get any KM's MZ's or Syrians. get as many possible flavors as possible i would say or just order a bunch for urself smoke it and see which ones u like the most and sell those. i havent tried many of these brands that u have up but i like fantasia(pink lemonade,rasberry lemonade,pumpkin spice,blueberry,margarita,and others but these are just the ones i like the most haha. oh and def. get them in the 50g boxes and 100g tubs!) ok u gotta drop the waha cuz its bad, unless its extremely fresh! good idea with the free 50g box or coals. what kinda coals were u planning on getting? im also interested in the lounge cuz i live in mesa and it might not be too far from me. P.S. sell phunnel and clay bowls and nammor hoses lol

WOW long post haha
I love Fantasia, it's just expensive to buy and sell. I am going to have 50g boxes, but no kilo tubs.

For coals, I plan to use Exotica Natural Fingers, and Three Kings Quick Lights? Not sure what else yet. Lots of planning!
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lol i guess me and Harry will just have to car-pool up there when you get it up and running. I'm in tempe. How about a little HP.com discount at the lounge, eh eh? lol
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Old January 29th, 2009, 06:29 PM
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lol i guess me and Harry will just have to car-pool up there when you get it up and running. I'm in tempe. How about a little HP.com discount at the lounge, eh eh? lol
lol yeah its 50 miles from my apt! a HP discount would be nice
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Old January 29th, 2009, 06:32 PM
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I love Fantasia, it's just expensive to buy and sell. I am going to have 50g boxes, but no kilo tubs.

For coals, I plan to use Exotica Natural Fingers, and Three Kings Quick Lights? Not sure what else yet. Lots of planning!
yeah fantasia is pretty exspensive. theres a local shop near me that sells 50g boxes for like $2.19+tax its pretty sweet. but if u had it i would probly just order it form u.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 06:48 PM
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If you say you are from HP I will probably either give you a discount, or a free refill on the shisha?

I won't be opening the lounge until next Summer most likely, I hope to have the online shop up by April.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 06:50 PM
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If you say you are from HP I will probably either give you a discount, or a free refill on the shisha?

I won't be opening the lounge until next Summer most likely, I hope to have the online shop up by April.
sweet!
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Old January 29th, 2009, 06:54 PM
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I am not going to sell Al Waha, should I sell Al-Amir or Layalina instead? Or just stick to Nakhla, Al-Fakher, and Starbuzz?

I might offer Tangiers too, I am getting in contact with them.
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Get a good supplier the closer you can get to the source the better. Go ahead and get your business license a little before you start selling so you can check out several wholesalers. Best I can tell there are 3 that supply our vendors but I am not positive about that. Either that or several buy from each other or something ridiculous.
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lol yeah its 50 miles from my apt! a HP discount would be nice
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Get a good supplier the closer you can get to the source the better. Go ahead and get your business license a little before you start selling so you can check out several wholesalers. Best I can tell there are 3 that supply our vendors but I am not positive about that. Either that or several buy from each other or something ridiculous.
I already have a supplier and a EIN from the IRS. I have wholesale catalogs and such already, been working on this for a few weeks now.

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biggests sellers are probably starbuzz, tangiers, and nakhla....u cover your three main fanbases with that....maybe a select of the standout flavors from other lines....
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biggests sellers are probably starbuzz, tangiers, and nakhla....u cover your three main fanbases with that....maybe a select of the standout flavors from other lines....
I was going to do Al-Fakher and Nakhla, and Starbuzz.
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What sort of freebies would you expect? I was thinking of throwing a roll of quick lights in with purchases over $20 or something, not sure how I would do that yet.
Anyone who "expects" freebies needs to have their head examined. I buy from the vendors I do because of selection, price, and service. Not what I'm going to get free just because they should give me crap. Vendors are not in this business to give away things because someone expects to get something for free. Don't get me wrong I am ecstatic when I open a box from my main suppliers and there is something I never expected. It makes it that much better to give them my business knowing they go above and beyond at times to just say thanks. Now promotions are different, just go with random stuff now and then and you will find what works well. Sorry for the rant but that expecting freebies sometimes draws out the beggars. As for forum discount codes, thats up to you. I have bought a lot of stuff from vendors who do or did not have a code at that time.
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I was planning on just having a promo code for the discount. Free stuff would be random, and only on the higher orders obviously lol.
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I was planning on just having a promo code for the discount. Free stuff would be random, and only on the higher orders obviously lol.
Excellent! Also try to secure a flat rate shipping since that seems to be a huge selling point now days.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 08:58 PM
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What should I charge for shipping? I was thinking like $5 flat rate?

I would like to maybe do a rate depending on the type of order, like shisha orders are $3 flat rate, and hookah orders are $8 flat rate.
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What should I charge for shipping? I was thinking like $5 flat rate?

I would like to maybe do a rate depending on the type of order, like shisha orders are $3 flat rate, and hookah orders are $8 flat rate.
If you go that low, LOL, I'll be buying every weekend. And I don't need that problem.
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