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Old January 29th, 2009, 09:06 PM
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What should I charge for shipping? I was thinking like $5 flat rate?

I would like to maybe do a rate depending on the type of order, like shisha orders are $3 flat rate, and hookah orders are $8 flat rate.
probably depends what u can work out with the shippers....but 7.50 i think is a very reasonable flat rate.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 09:07 PM
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$7.50 would work, I just feel that's a lot to ship a 250g tub of shisha.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 09:12 PM
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$7.50 would work, I just feel that's a lot to ship a 250g tub of shisha.
Well most people would just order more...

The other thing about flat rates is it encourages people to buy a LOT, cause they aren't going to pay any extra in shipping, essentially getting a better deal.

My smallest orders are still more than 20$ of shisha/coals.
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True, I doubt anyone would come to my site and purchase a single 50g box or anything.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 09:15 PM
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True, I doubt anyone would come to my site and purchase a single 50g box or anything.
and if they do, they might call you and ask you to ship it in a bubble envelope or something for the price it would cost...like a dollar or w/e.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 10:03 PM
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True, I could always do that.

I am not sure what all I should offer, I was thinking AF, Nakhla, Tangiers, and Starbuzz for shisha?
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that sounds like a good popular selection. I cant wait for u to open ur online store. Im in Tucson and there is very limited quality shisha available. Im especially excited about the Nakhla!
Not into freebies or discount codes but am very supportive of good customer service and good business ethics. You strive to maintain that and you will be successfull no matter how small or large your business may be.
Good luck and please let us know when you are up and running.
Hope to be one of your first customers.
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Not into freebies or discount codes but am very supportive of good customer service and good business ethics.
freebies and discount codes are good and nice but def. good customer service is what really makes a good online vendor.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 01:29 AM
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if you go with a $3 flat rate on shisha you'd be one of the go-to guys for a quick restock. see if you can lock it down. the online community is pretty convinced that al fakher is diminishing in quality, but i'd suggest carrying what shisha you can (especially if you can offer such cheap shipping for it). if you're selling 250g of al fakher for only $0.75 more than 250g of al waha i doubt you'll ever sell the al waha. your SB sales may not pick up until you open the lounge. i've noticed sb tends to appeal more to people not educated about buying shisha online.

as for the freebies, don't sacrifice your business to offer good ones. if you're overstocked on something low-end that's one thing, but for the type of freebies you're talking about offering you'll notice people will just buy them from you. keep us posted man.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 01:58 AM
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Right on, I will just go with Nakhla, Al-Fakher, and Tangiers. If I notice the quality of AF is poor or the sales are bad, I will swap it out for Al-Amir?

I think I could do $3 shipping, I need to find a place to get boxes from in bulk.
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Karma.. get ur Lounge up and running first..thats going to be the main source of money flow. you can even sell tobacco and some other stuff in the lounge/store if your can manage that.. then once you get things rolling and stuff then get a site built up. thats how i would do it but the choices are yours.
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Karma.. get ur Lounge up and running first..thats going to be the main source of money flow. you can even sell tobacco and some other stuff in the lounge/store if your can manage that.. then once you get things rolling and stuff then get a site built up. thats how i would do it but the choices are yours.

I d tend to disagree.

A lounge takes a lot more capital than an online store and therefore there is a lot more risk involved.

Also a lounge is risky now with mroe and more smoking regulations every day.

Granted John's situation was a little different. He didnt have a lounge, but it was more profitable for him to do ONLY online sales and not have to pay for a brick and mortar shop. I think online is where the money is at....if you have looked at any studies and statistics on e-commerce in the last year or two...only spending can only grow. Online shopping is still only done by a VERY SMALL fraction of the country...thats how cell phones used to be, now everyone has one....e-commerce is the next thing...soon everyone will be doing it.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 09:46 AM
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YES carry al amir!!!

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Right on, I will just go with Nakhla, Al-Fakher, and Tangiers. If I notice the quality of AF is poor or the sales are bad, I will swap it out for Al-Amir?

I think I could do $3 shipping, I need to find a place to get boxes from in bulk.
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Get ******* hookah coals
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I have to say AF must be a big seller as i don't buy from a seller that doesn't have a good range on AF, ad i know a few other people that wouldnt buy unless you have AF as well.
Maybe you can sell more brands but stock less of each flavour, might not need 20 AF apple when 5 would do for example.

The one thing i can gurantee you would get loads of customers is if you offer a flat rate international postage service, even if it is say $60-70 people would just buy more to save on postage, because i easily pay 70 on shipping everytime i place a order and i would order more if shipping didnt go up as well
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ye that seems good, but to really hit the nail on the head make sure that you ship worldwide, and try advertising and stuff in England, as there is not much variety here, and people would buy as long as the price is not ridiculous.
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yh try and get shipping as cheap as possible for UK because i know a lot of people in the uk that are looking for some good retailers
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Dude if you carried the Saudi Washable hose or something like it with a wooden mouthpiece and washable. Al Fakher and Nakhla and 3kings or Belgian qls and some good natural coals coconut for the masochistic crowd and hardwood for the rest of us then you would definitely be one to look at for me. So far I have liked all my dealings with several vendors but I tend to have to wait until I can justify buying from one to get something only they sell by adding tobacco to the order or something. Even though I could get a better deal or a better style brand or whatever from someone else. Like right now I want a vortex and some saudi hoses but I want a blue vortex and THS only has black and white but SSC doesn't have the hose I want, and HJ has the deals on AF that would let me sample more of it but he doesn't carry either of the other items but it isn't really worth it at this point to buy from all three cause shipping and all that gets added and you end up paying a lot more than you want to get it. If I could combine those deals in one place it would be my next purchase. THS is as close as I can get but right now they don't have the colors I really want so I wait. Which is good cause I need a little more money to do it comfortably anyway.
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I have to say AF must be a big seller as i don't buy from a seller that doesn't have a good range on AF, ad i know a few other people that wouldnt buy unless you have AF as well.
Maybe you can sell more brands but stock less of each flavour, might not need 20 AF apple when 5 would do for example.

The one thing i can gurantee you would get loads of customers is if you offer a flat rate international postage service, even if it is say $60-70 people would just buy more to save on postage, because i easily pay 70 on shipping everytime i place a order and i would order more if shipping didnt go up as well
I plan to offer international rate, there is no reason people should charge per item for shipping.

I am getting in touch with UPS and the USPS to see what sort of prices I can do for shipping.

Anyone know how much a 250g tub weights, including the tub? What about a 50g box?

Thanks
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Old January 31st, 2009, 08:14 PM
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Here is a list of what I plan on carrying to start:

Nakhla Double Apple
Nakhla Cherry
Nakhla Grape
Nakhla Mint
Nakhla Mixed Fruit
Nakhla Strawberry
Nakhla Sweet Melon
Nakhla Clementine
Nakhla Cola
Nakhla Orange
Nakhla Peach
Nakhla Vanilla
Nakhla Chocomint

Al-Fakher Banana
Al-Fakher Cherry
Al-Fakher Double Apple
Al-Fakher Mint
Al-Fakher Mixed Fruit
Al-Fakher Strawberry
Al-Fakher Sweet Melon
Al-Fakher White Grape
Al-Fakher Bubblegum
Al-Fakher Café Latte
Al-Fakher Cola
Al-Fakher Grape Mint
Al-Fakher Grenadine
Al-Fakher Guava
Al-Fakher Spearmint
Al-Fakher Lemon Mint
Al-Fakher Peach
Al-Fakher Plum
Al-Fakher Vanilla
Al-Fakher Golden Grape
Al-Fakher Golden Apple
Al-Fakher Golden Strawberry

Al-Amir Blackberry
Al-Amir Cherry
Al-Amir Cola
Al-Amir Coconut
Al-Amir Kiwi
Al-Amir Orange
Al-Amir Watermelon

What am I missing? Hopefully I can carry tangiers too.
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I started the website today, here is a screenshot, lots of work to be done.

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If you need any help or need somebody to work for you when you open lmk.

I work at Urban Cafe Hookah Lounge in Tempe, AZ currently


Can you please stock tangiers shisha
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When opening a online hookah store, where do you find the licenses to sell shisha?
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If you need any help or need somebody to work for you when you open lmk.

I work at Urban Cafe Hookah Lounge in Tempe, AZ currently


Can you please stock tangiers shisha
Right On! I have not been to Urban Cafe yet, how is business? Do you have any trouble operating after the smoking ban? I was told you just need to make sure 51% of your sales are shisha to stay open, right?
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Right On! I have not been to Urban Cafe yet, how is business? Do you have any trouble operating after the smoking ban? I was told you just need to make sure 51% of your sales are shisha to stay open, right?
Never heard of that... But after Jan 2008 (last year) there was a new law stating we could not have food unless we had a open Patio which sucks cuz the Gyros were bomb.

If that was true we be shut down unless a customer coming in to smoke counted as a shisha sale
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