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Old February 9th, 2009, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: The perfect hose

I would get a plastic or glass mouthtip, and a vinyl tub hose. the draw would be gentle.

That would be my perfect hose.
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Old February 9th, 2009, 08:41 PM
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thanks gang for all the wonderfull input i think i know how im going to design the hose ends and handle but still undecided on the actual hose material. If any one has links to some of the sugested materials that would be great. I found a corigated spiral wound tubing made for dry food transfer but not sure. I do like the braided stuff cause the work to finish it would be limited but it would be a heavy hose so im still up in the sair i would love the find the stuff used in the razan but cant seem to find it any where. So if any one has links to good hose or knows whats used in the razan let me know.
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Old February 9th, 2009, 08:52 PM
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1. wide gauge
2. fully washable
3. removable tips (both ends)
4. Something other than the "sweatband" look

Nothing radical with any of those. However, I was looking at the baby's teething ring the other day when I had an epiphany: freezable hookah hose. Essentially, the idea is to construct the hose with a layer of non-toxic, freezable liquid -- segmented in a way to allow the hose to still be flexible. Put the hose in the freezer and viola! super-chilled smoking pleasure (I'd bet that this would cool the smoke much better than an ice chamber)...

...or maybe its a crazy idea
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Old February 10th, 2009, 01:17 AM
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maybe this will help
http://www.plumbingstore.com/cleartubing.html
http://webcat.ryanherco.com/products.../010120110.cfm
http://www.pythontube.com/products3.php
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Old February 10th, 2009, 08:21 AM
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1. wide gauge
2. fully washable
3. removable tips (both ends)
4. Something other than the "sweatband" look

Nothing radical with any of those. However, I was looking at the baby's teething ring the other day when I had an epiphany: freezable hookah hose. Essentially, the idea is to construct the hose with a layer of non-toxic, freezable liquid -- segmented in a way to allow the hose to still be flexible. Put the hose in the freezer and viola! super-chilled smoking pleasure (I'd bet that this would cool the smoke much better than an ice chamber)...

...or maybe its a crazy idea
cool idea on paper but it would warm up in less than an hour probably, and i know my self and many others smoke for 2-3 hours straight.

honestly though i dont notice much difference from the beginning of the first bowl i put on until the last bowl i take off in regards to if the water is cold/stem chilled to room temp water with the step being really warm from being smoked.

cool novelty sure but idk abut how realistic it is (but surely give it a try)
-matt
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Old February 10th, 2009, 08:22 PM
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well im putting the final tuches on the CAD drawings for the ends. I have decided to certianly make this hose modular with replaceable parts so a whole hose replacement would not be required if there out of warrenty or maby you would like to change it up with colors or somthing the first runs will be in clear acrylic because i have some leftover drop-offs from another job to play with. i have decides to also sodium bicabinate bath all items before assemblie to elivate the nasty new hose taste that some new hoses have, i dont think you can get rid of it all but surely should make it better tasting smoke from the start. For now for the first i try for my self im going to try a o-ringed socket fitting to see how it works that way if your o-rings get lose you can just replace them. unlike the razan i have where the grommet became lose fitting and the mouth piece would leak cause its lose grommet. I was thinking that i would make them screw together but my worry would be that people would over tighten them or cross thread them. Then if i try to make a really corse thread so they were hard to coss thread they could crack eaisly from over tightning or leak due to the lack of sealing surface. I think this o-ring idea i have will work grat buy im gonna try to make a few and throw them out there for people to try.
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Old February 10th, 2009, 08:26 PM
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What my ideal hose would be:

1) washable
2) big width
3) flexible
4) light weight
5) choice of colors ( i'd personally want clear )
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well im putting the final tuches on the CAD drawings for the ends. I have decided to certianly make this hose modular with replaceable parts so a whole hose replacement would not be required if there out of warrenty or maby you would like to change it up with colors or somthing the first runs will be in clear acrylic because i have some leftover drop-offs from another job to play with. i have decides to also sodium bicabinate bath all items before assemblie to elivate the nasty new hose taste that some new hoses have, i dont think you can get rid of it all but surely should make it better tasting smoke from the start. For now for the first i try for my self im going to try a o-ringed socket fitting to see how it works that way if your o-rings get lose you can just replace them. unlike the razan i have where the grommet became lose fitting and the mouth piece would leak cause its lose grommet. I was thinking that i would make them screw together but my worry would be that people would over tighten them or cross thread them. Then if i try to make a really corse thread so they were hard to coss thread they could crack eaisly from over tightning or leak due to the lack of sealing surface. I think this o-ring idea i have will work grat buy im gonna try to make a few and throw them out there for people to try.
good ideas, the oring idea is perfect, just make sure to use a very common oring so users can go to the hard ware store or the like and grab them.

good choice on ditching the thread idea, its great on paper but you thoughts are good about people messing them up, and acrylic i dont think will take it very well like you said.

i love the idea of it being modular but make sure the seals have a lot of play in them so that they seal well and wont slip out, there are already enough places a hookah can leak air in (but you seem to be on the up and up in your technical stuff so i dont think you will have an issue.

something to think about though is the disposable mouth tips, just make sure they can use a standard female tip should be rather easy and as long as its not a huge gauge hole your golden .

i look forward to see your product and hope it all works out well

-matt
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Old February 26th, 2009, 11:17 PM
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acrylic stylish and FREE
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Old February 27th, 2009, 02:58 AM
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if you can make hoses like this one and keep the tips plastic or that dual metal one and maby a clear hose that would be sexy
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Default Re: The perfect hose

i think, a 12in handle is perfect, make it a full inch in diameter, with rubber internal lining so its washable and i like the acrylic tips too... would be cool if the outside was made of some sort of quick drying material, so you could wash the WHOLE thing in a dishwasher or sink and then just wait 20-30min...
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Old February 27th, 2009, 05:56 AM
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im very satisfied with my nammor hose, but the best hose, i know is the King EX-L from britain.
http://www.theshishashop.com/shisha-...lue-p-213.html
unfortunately i couldnt get one yet. someday i have to buy it
Hey,

Why is this hose so good? I might pick it up if you give me sufficent reasons to.
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