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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:07 AM
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Hey Guys,

I bought my first hookah about 2 months ago and have been using it maybe 40times or so now. Iíve already bought new tobacco and even got myself a nammor hose
But since the first few times after using it Iíve noticed these weird Ďstainsí on the inside, where the hose valve enters, and also where the release valve goes intoÖ What is in there anyways?
Although Iím new to smoking my own shish aim not new to shisha itself and think I take care of it well.. I wash it out with water after every use and use brushes from time to time as well. Ive also soaked it in vinegar for about 45mins once in the 2months that Iíve had it and used some backing soda as well.. I did this just for fun basically, there was no real dirt I was aiming to get rid of.
2 of the pictures kind of show what I mean, but its hard to get a photo of it, it does look like rust and doesnít really come off easily, or at least I donít know how. The other pic just shows that it still in good condition. And I cant see the stains when the shisha is wet (when Iím running water through it) It does seem to have gotten a bit more since the first time I saw it. Looking into the shisha itself it appears like that stuff is all over the inside too but like I said earlier, what is inside there anyways? It looks a bit like wood but canít imagine that.

The Picís show what I mean on the inside of the hose valve but the same stuff seems to be all over the inside.
Iím in Singapore and its really humid here, so I store the shisha and all its components (except for base) in a cupboard and I put a dehumidifying thing in there too, those that keep moths away from clothes and soak up moisture. I also dry by shisha properly outside and shake it rigorously after washing to ensure as little water is left inside as possible.
This is a Ďsenior shishaí by the way.. a link to it here http://www.kaya-agypt-shishas.de/pro...products_id=70 ( its in German btw)
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So if anyone could help me identify what that is? Or what is in the inside of that area I would appreciate it; also how I can clean it properly to remove that stuff? And if its (more) unhealthy smoking it when that stuff is thereÖ

Thanks in advance and sry for the long post :P
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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:48 AM
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Looks like corrosion.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 08:34 AM
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my mya has a little bit of that on some of the inside parts. i think it is water stains/corrosion from water being left on it. get a small brush that is meant to go in there and brush it out, and dry it out. if it doesnt go away with that i wouldnt worry about it unless it starts to get a whole lot worse and cause pitting/taste/etc

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Old February 17th, 2009, 10:04 AM
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Yeah...looks like its corroding on you.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 10:11 AM
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it's not nasty yet. there is hope.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 10:16 AM
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Thanks for the info guys..
So wat advise u got to get rid of the corrosion? I really don't feel like buying a new hookah. Wat do i have to do exactly to get rid of it?

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Old February 17th, 2009, 10:53 AM
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Oxy Clean used that on my hookah worked great for awhile. Then it kept coming back. The reason was that i never took care of my hookah, now i clean it after every uses.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 10:53 AM
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Thanks for the info guys..
So wat advise u got to get rid of the corrosion? I really don't feel like buying a new hookah. Wat do i have to do exactly to get rid of it?

Astronomer
use some type of abrasive, and dont clean it as much, maybe clean every few bowls because this will leave a small film that will help protect it against corrosion, yes, you might get some lingering flavors in it, but its better than rust.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 12:13 PM
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i wash mine before i light up for the evening (i smoke 2 -3 bowls a night). the amount you wash it doesnt matter its how well you dry it when your done.

as to the corrosion i would not worry about it unless that rig is steel which i dont think it is, almost all other metals when they get a layer of corrosion (patina) it protects the metal below it and does not continue down like rust on steel does

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Old February 17th, 2009, 01:12 PM
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you should be fine man, no worries. Just make sure when you do clean (once a week or so is usually good) everything is nice and dry before you're done.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:13 PM
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speaking about cleaning, should i be cleaning my hookah after every session or after every couple of sessions?
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Old February 17th, 2009, 07:09 PM
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speaking about cleaning, should i be cleaning my hookah after every session or after every couple of sessions?
We all say after every. but im a lazy ass and do it every week/ two weeks. you know it depends on you. if you smoke some of those weird lingering ghosting flavors that interfere when you smoke a different flavor i would clean it asap.
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When dealing with corrosion like that the easiest way is to get some form of abrasive to clean it off. But don't stop there. Find some 0000 steel wool, or some really really high numbered grit sandpaper, and try to smoothe that area out. the smoother the better. If you just leave it rough then you have all these little dimples and scratches in which water can collect(doesnt matter if its a ridiculously small amount of h2o, remember that corrosion occurs on a molecular scale). The smoother the surface the less corrosion you will have longterm.

For instance, we have a bunch of table saws where i work, and the metal tops would rust semi-often. Which then required sanding and cleaning(can't have rust rubbing on solid stock cherry or birds eye maple).
I took the time to polish them all down to a close to mirror finish. That was 3 years ago and they haven't rusted since.
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When dealing with corrosion like that the easiest way is to get some form of abrasive to clean it off. But don't stop there. Find some 0000 steel wool, or some really really high numbered grit sandpaper, and try to smoothe that area out. the smoother the better. If you just leave it rough then you have all these little dimples and scratches in which water can collect(doesnt matter if its a ridiculously small amount of h2o, remember that corrosion occurs on a molecular scale). The smoother the surface the less corrosion you will have longterm.

For instance, we have a bunch of table saws where i work, and the metal tops would rust semi-often. Which then required sanding and cleaning(can't have rust rubbing on solid stock cherry or birds eye maple).
I took the time to polish them all down to a close to mirror finish. That was 3 years ago and they haven't rusted since.
honestly you can just go to the 0000 steel wool probably, it doesnt look deep and should be fine with just 0000, if you are really worried about it you might want to get some tripoli or rouge and go at it but i dont think that is really necessary (it will be good but, a lot of work for what might not be the best results). you can also take a very hard piece of steel that has been polished to a perfect mirror finish and rub it over the cleaned surface with a decent amount of pressure (its called burnishing) and that will smooth the metal out and give you a polished finish on it... but if the item you use as a burnisher is not perfectly polished it is a waste of time

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Old February 18th, 2009, 02:53 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions and ill try to do that where i can, but as u see in the pictures most of the corrosion is inside, where the hose valve enteres and where the release valve enters... how can i clean it out in there?
Is there any solution i can make at home or some cleaning liquid i can buy and safely pour inside? to get rid of some of the corrosion...
Thanks for the help
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Thanks for the suggestions and ill try to do that where i can, but as u see in the pictures most of the corrosion is inside, where the hose valve enteres and where the release valve enters... how can i clean it out in there?
Is there any solution i can make at home or some cleaning liquid i can buy and safely pour inside? to get rid of some of the corrosion...
Thanks for the help
Put some steel wool on the end of like a popsicle stick and go to town on it
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Old February 18th, 2009, 07:19 AM
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lol, i smoke my old hookah outside my parents house under the lapa(it lives there). the purge valve is ceased up(rusted), the only thing that gets washed is the bowl and the pipe. i change the water before i smoke. its abused and looks like crap, but it smokes just as good as the one i actually look after at my own place. Point being... you dont need to buy a new hookah if it has a few marks or grime or corrosion on it. It just gives it abit more character.
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Thanks for the suggestions and ill try to do that where i can, but as u see in the pictures most of the corrosion is inside, where the hose valve enteres and where the release valve enters... how can i clean it out in there?
Is there any solution i can make at home or some cleaning liquid i can buy and safely pour inside? to get rid of some of the corrosion...
Thanks for the help
steel wool is malleable, you can pull some off and twist/shape/push it in to fit

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