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Old March 20th, 2009, 02:03 AM
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Really... Why is it, I know it's been around for hundreds and hundreds of years, but why isn't there a healthier alternative yet?


-Instant light coals give off Magnesium.
-Exotica Naturals give off Carbon Monoxide
-Shisha contains tobacco, some contain nicotine and tar. (A given)
-Foil lets off Bromine when burned.
-Herbal Shisha contains Bagasse, which can cause Pneumonia or Bronchitis
-Using soda cans as wind covers can burn Dioxin from the plastic layer on the inside of the can.
-Burning soda cans remove creosote from your fireplace, imagine what it can do to your throat/lungs
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Old March 20th, 2009, 02:10 AM
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if these things bother you... or anyone.. dont smoke... lol
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Old March 20th, 2009, 06:57 AM
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-Instant light coals give off Magnesium and Carbon Monoxide
-All coals give off Carbon Monoxide
-Shisha contains tobacco, they contain very little nicotine and no tar.
-Foil lets off Bromine when burned. Who burns foil?
-Herbal Shisha contains Bagasse, which can cause Pneumonia or Bronchitis
-Using soda cans as wind covers can burn Dioxin from the plastic layer on the inside of the can. Buy a real wind cover.
-Burning soda cans remove creosote from your fireplace, imagine what it can do to your throat/lungs again buy a real wind cover and if you must use a soda can wind cover don't use a blow torch to burn the aluminum.
I fixed your list of "facts".
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Old March 20th, 2009, 07:24 AM
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I'm still young, they'll have a cure for cancer by the time I need it.
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if these things bother you... or anyone.. dont smoke... lol
thats exactly my opinion!

btw: why is life so bad?
- radiation is everywhere around us
- there are so many kinds of diseases
- ...


smoking hookah wont kill you (it could, but i dont think its that harmful). the main cause of lung cancer is the tar, but there is no tar, if you smoke a normal hookah.
tar is produced, whenever an organic substance is burning, but shisha doesnt burn, if you smoke it the right way!
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Old March 20th, 2009, 09:38 AM
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Because i dont care about those things, only thats why, there is no other reason.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 10:23 AM
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Really... Why is it, I know it's been around for hundreds and hundreds of years, but why isn't there a healthier alternative yet?


-Instant light coals give off Magnesium.
-Exotica Naturals give off Carbon Monoxide
-Shisha contains tobacco, some contain nicotine and tar. (A given)
-Foil lets off Bromine when burned.
-Herbal Shisha contains Bagasse, which can cause Pneumonia or Bronchitis
-Using soda cans as wind covers can burn Dioxin from the plastic layer on the inside of the can.
-Burning soda cans remove creosote from your fireplace, imagine what it can do to your throat/lungs
-dont use QLs
-anything organic that is burned pretty much will give of CO
-nicotine is not good for you but it is not the evil substance that it is seen as by many and not that addictive on its own (where as cigs add in shit to addict you) and you wont get any tar if you smoke it right
-if you can get your foil to burn you tobacco will have burst into flames and have been so unsmokable your lungs will know about 2000*f before this hapens
-herbal shisha over all is not very good any way
-use a rea wind cover

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I fixed your list of "facts".
i love you
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Old March 20th, 2009, 11:34 AM
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Ty Dunk! If tehre is anyone who thinks that it is so bad then whybother it unless you secertly desire it!
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I fixed your list of "facts".
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Old March 20th, 2009, 01:02 PM
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I fixed your list of "facts".
Thank you for doing that. Saved me the time lol.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 04:26 PM
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Dunkel, you clearly missed my point. It's probably even my fault for not making it blatantly obvious. Now let me re-fix your list.
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-Instant light coals give off Magnesium and Carbon Monoxide
-All coals give off Carbon Monoxide
-Shisha contains tobacco, they contain very little nicotine and no tar.
-Foil lets off Bromine when burned. Who burns foil?
-Herbal Shisha contains Bagasse, which can cause Pneumonia or Bronchitis
-Using soda cans as wind covers can burn Dioxin from the plastic layer on the inside of the can. Buy a real wind cover.
-Burning soda cans remove creosote from your fireplace, imagine what it can do to your throat/lungs again buy a real wind cover and if you must use a soda can wind cover don't use a blow torch to burn the aluminum.
~You are probably right when you say all coals give off CO, I don't feel in the mood to research.
~If you have found a way not to put coals on foil, please let us know. Coals burn hotter then most lighters (not butane though.).
~I personally don't have much in the way of extra cash to throw down for a $10 piece of metal. If you want me to get a real windcover, I will send you my paypal information, and feel free to pitch in.
Good day, sir.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 04:42 PM
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Dunkel, you clearly missed my point. It's probably even my fault for not making it blatantly obvious. Now let me re-fix your list.


~You are probably right when you say all coals give off CO, I don't feel in the mood to research.
~If you have found a way not to put coals on foil, please let us know. Coals burn hotter then most lighters (not butane though.).
~I personally don't have much in the way of extra cash to throw down for a $10 piece of metal. If you want me to get a real windcover, I will send you my paypal information, and feel free to pitch in.
Good day, sir.
i do not see how you think foil burns from a coal. Al burns at 6920F, boils at 4566*f and melts at 1220*f and a piece of char coal does not get hot enough to burn the tobacco even. you need much much much more heat than a coal can produce to burn aluminum

and as to a wind cover, if you are worried about stuff burning off just use foil as a wind cover, its pure and its safe (as long as your not using coated foil). you want to get really spiffy you can go get some AL siding/sheet metal at lowes and make one for probably just a few bucks. a wind cover is not essential to smoking, while it does make it better and easier to manage heat, it is not needed like any other component is

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I was not trying to one up you with my post. My point is your "facts" are pointing towards the extreme. Foil doesn't burn from a coal. That's why it's used to wrap food for cooking in a campfire or in the coals of your Bar B Que grill. About the windcover make one out of a small coffee can instead of an aluminum soda can. It looks like some of the commercially available ones are modified coffee cans anyhow. About pitching in, no thanks. I'm more than generous as serveral people here can attest to. I prefer a more subtle approach. No offense intended or taken.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 04:53 PM
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Ha what a bunch of BS.
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Default Re: Why is hookah so harmful, but so good? :S

Yeah... lots of things we do come with inherent health risks, but if you arent willing to take these risks then stop smoking. Seems fairly simple. Also, i know you say you arent in the mood to do research, but if that is the case, maybe you should wait til you are in the mood before posting a thread like this.

I know hookah isnt good for me. I know there are SOME risks involved in this hobby of mine. But i enjoy it, and i dont feel that hookah is going to impact my health to any real degree.... so i smoke. I am sure that is how 90% of the HPers are going to respond to this as well.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 09:36 AM
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I'm still young, they'll have a cure for cancer by the time I need it.
BAHAHAH! i laughed so much at this XD
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Old March 21st, 2009, 09:55 AM
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BAHAHAH! i laughed so much at this XD
the ironic/cool thing is that like a couple of weeks ago they said that they see cancer becoming a ******* disease as apposed to a killer in the next few decades, better than nothing
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why does this new guy just come in here and tell us smoking is bad if he thinks its so bad then just dont do it!
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Eating french fries and hamburgers is bad.... but a Good Crown Burger with Pastrami is literally impossible to pass up. ..
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you ask about a healthier alternative yet you complain about the money to take that route. you shouldn't be Good Day, Sir-ing anybody.

In all seriousness though. If you want to take the time to post and discuss this you should probably do it when you're in the researching mood, because that's what the topic calls for.
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this is a hookah forum
and your complaining about smoking hookah?
does that make sense?
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His comment kinda pisses me off lol
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His comment kinda pisses me off lol
i dont blame you
granted i dont know a ton of the specifics when it comes to hookah and health
but if yours soo concerned with your health try not smoking
ive heard its the best for when it comes to avoiding health risks that come with smoking
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