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Old March 31st, 2009, 02:47 PM
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Default Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

A couple of weeks ago my friends and I went over to San Diego for Spring Break 09, and we stopped by Oddesey. Which is where Tangeries is made. So we bought some and Eric (the owner and maker) said it would have to acclimate. So we left it out for a good 7 days or so. It is ALWAYS smoking really harsh.... WHY
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Old March 31st, 2009, 02:48 PM
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Too much heat?

7 days seems like a long time to acclimate...
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Old March 31st, 2009, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

7 days!?!??!

only a few to 24 hours is necessary lol
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Old March 31st, 2009, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

I think that the shisha may have been over acclimated (which in Arizona means it was dried out) and then smoked with too much heat. Hookah john was shown by Eric how to keep and prepare Tangiers. I recommend you check out the videos.
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Old March 31st, 2009, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

ouch, 7 days is too long, way to dry in Az to need to acclimate for 7days. call the number on the pack and ask if its still salvagable.
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Old March 31st, 2009, 03:26 PM
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tangiers always comes to me well-set in the acclimation stage. It smells fine, and after I leave it out, it just smells better. I live one state above you, and it's a lot wetter here i must say. Dry climate may just mean the tangiers needs to acclimate to the perfect humidity, but maybe your climate control or something is fluctuating and keeping it from completely acclimating.
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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

Is it just harsh, or is the smell bad? If it's just harsh, you may not be packing it properly; check videos, because Tangiers has a very different packing method. If it smells bad...yeah, give Eric a call and see what he says.
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Ya well my friend and I let it acclimate for about 4 hours and since that didn't work we just let it acclemate for a dat and then tested it then and so on and so forth until the seventh day. It smells fine, we put them into this plastic container. I learned how to pack the bowls from the maker of the tangeries, so I know I'm packing it right, and I am using the same coals he is using (Golden Charcoals). But I since the weather is so different in Arizona then San Diego, that could be the reason it is so harsh??
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Old March 31st, 2009, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

Are there any AZ HP'ers that can chime in?
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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

BIGPOPPA is, but he obviously hasn't has these problems.
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Old March 31st, 2009, 05:30 PM
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sorry, i havent had problems with my Tangiers, i acclimated for about 8 hours and it came out fine.
Did you make sure to stir it occasionally and respread it out?
if you still have trouble you should call the number on the pack.
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Ok cool thanks I will try getting new shisha and just try doing it the way you guys said.
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Acclimate stir, repeat, smoke. Have you tried Lucid CJ? Lucid works better for me in AZ.
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Old March 31st, 2009, 06:33 PM
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Where did you find the Lounge Odessey? I went last week and I used the address on this website http://www.tangierstobacco.com/ and I didn't find anything. Infact I circled around the street El Cajon several times and didn't see anything except this other hookah lounge called Babalone or something like that...
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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

hmm try acclimating it in your basement where it is a little cooler.
remember warm air rises so the lowest portion of the house should be substantial.
i recommend leaving it out for 8 hours with a good mix every 2-3
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Where did you find the Lounge Odessey? I went last week and I used the address on this website http://www.tangierstobacco.com/ and I didn't find anything. Infact I circled around the street El Cajon several times and didn't see anything except this other hookah lounge called Babalone or something like that...
Well it is right in between two shops... it was hard to find for me. If you can't find it then call Eric he is a nice guy that will help you. Its right before El Cajon I believe.
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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

at first i had a few batches that never worked right but then started getting ones that were fine for me out of the box. i just got sour that needs to be acclimated a bit but a few hours gets it fine.

if you over acclimate it the tobacco gets fubar in my experiences. some people have had bad luck in places getting tangiers to acclimate though

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Acclimate stir, repeat, smoke. Have you tried Lucid CJ? Lucid works better for me in AZ.

I don't believe I have tried it yet, but we brought back like 12 different flavors since he gave us a good price.
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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

ya like every1 said, it has probably dried out and the heat made it even worse, and also make sure you are packing it properly.. check out the Video on How to Properly pack a tangiers in a tangiers bowl. by *************
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o ya as to the packing crap, i dont pack it like the "right" way. i pack it tightly (but not really hard) to the top or just about of the inner hole, foil tightly and poke holes to the bottom. i never push the tobacco down with the foil and i dont pack it as hard and still can get well over 3 hours of good smoke of a bowl

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Default Re: Why doesn't Tangeries smoke good in Arizona?!?!?!

is the smoke thin and harsh?
is the smoke super thick and harsh?

usually acclimation problems make it taste like crap, not really make it harsh.

harshness is usually packing or heat management problems.
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Sounds like a packing and heat problem to me. Franky it does not sound like it dried out and is unsmokable to me. Tangiers is not that fragile guys. Most shisha tobacco isn't. Tangiers is a touchy SOB when it comes to everything else but it is not likely to dry out and die that quickly. I know people taht will smoke half a bowl and then light it up the next day without repacking tangiers. If that does not kill the tobacco then leaving it out is not going to either.

What flavor is it?

Sometimes Tangiers just doesn't want to work. Both cocoa batches I have ever had never tasted good sadly while all the horchata, mimon and peach iced tea I ever got worked fine. Sometimes the batches are just screwy. It is a sad fact with Tangiers that you have to dea with once in a while.

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^^ ya its not fragile to the point it being to "dry" but the flavor can be delicate on some of them

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I smoke tangiers all the time. I live in AZ and it's fine. Your doing something wrong.
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just a heat thing i think... don't give up tho! lol ull get it down pat soon enough... and about not finding erics lounge... i was talking to him on the phone a while back and we were just bs'in and got on the subject of lounges and he says and i quote "if you are s'post to be there you know where its at.." and i laughed because it reminded me of the leaky cauldron in harry potter (dont laugh at me fools) but ya lol just thought i was say that.
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