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I will still call tobacco shisha, even though it isnt. 33 30.00%
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:01 PM
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Default Lets try to use the right words

So, i was wondering if i could start changing to vocabulary of the people around here to use the right words in reference to the right things.

I mainly wanted to focus on the word shisha, or شيشة. It is the actual pipe, not the tobacco that goes in it. So i was wondering if we could refer to the stuff as tobacco, moassal, tombak, jurak, or whatever it may be.

What to call herbal shisha then? Crushed sugar cane.
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:05 PM
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so shisha in Arabic is the "actual hookah itself'
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:07 PM
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I never reffer to the tobacco as ''shisha''. As you know Faisal a ''shisha'' is a refferene to the pipe, not the moassel. Whe refferencing Egyptian rigs I use shisha, and when Syrians I use narghile or arghilah.
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:12 PM
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i am stuck in my ways
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:27 PM
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ill mend my accidental ways
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:28 PM
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This always annoys me, but the Americanized word for moassel is shisha, sadly. Every US vendor uses it. I try to discourage it amongst smoking buddies, but, eh, doesn't do much.
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:29 PM
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i had no idea
well if you post up how to pronounce some of the words il try to change my ways.
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:32 PM
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I never reffer to the tobacco as ''shisha''. As you know Faisal a ''shisha'' is a refferene to the pipe, not the moassel. Whe refferencing Egyptian rigs I use shisha, and when Syrians I use narghile or arghilah.
actually, I take that back. When I'm w/my girlfriend we reffer to my Syrians as ''shishas'', but that's only because she Egyptian.
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:32 PM
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i'm stuck as well, however if i were to ever go over seas i would fix my problem and follow the traditional rules to smoking
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Old April 4th, 2009, 01:34 PM
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I could never get used to calling the tobacco shisha and to me hookah is an Indian term. It seems that while the name of a water varies a lot and I am not to sensitive about the terms (although I hate "hubbly Bubbly") I think we should try to call the tobacco what it actually is. I realize that some times it's hard to tell a jurak from a "black" product so we don't need to be uptight about it. Still, what we put in the bowl is not shisha and we sould at least use terms that makes sense to everyone.
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Damn we are never to old to learn so now we are speaking in foreign languages

OK then why is a lot of the tobacco refered to as molasses where Molasses is actualy a sugar cane or fruit product. ( BTW not qualified to read those squiggles that they call writing)

Thanks for the Info
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Default Re: Lets try to use the right words

Still being new I will do my best to change my vocabulary on this subject. I do agree however that a reference (real reference) would be very nice to have for all us newbies so we can be sure to get the vocabulary correct.

BTW Thanks for the heads up on the mistake.
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Old April 4th, 2009, 02:07 PM
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I totally agree with photolinger, we should try learn the correct words.

Update: at least we should not use the word "shisha" to describe tobacco.

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btw photo
i chose number 3 cuz it made me lol =]
il actually stop calling it shisha once i get the pronounciation down
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Old April 4th, 2009, 02:09 PM
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I try to just say tobacco all the time, but sometimes i slip, but I also am not really looking to correct myself all the time. Just most of the time.

Also, this will be utterly impossible to make a dent in. Most new members are from America, Americans always call it 'shisha', etc.
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I say shisha tobacco, of course meaning tobacco for use in a shisha. I picked #3 as well!
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Default Re: Lets try to use the right words

to what stolenbythesky said:

If i recall correctly, traditional moassal is called that because it has molasses in it. These days, the stuff called moassal just has honey and glycerin in it. That makes it something different technically....

As for saying it right:
SHE-SHA, its not said with an accent or anything. Just say SHE followed by SHA.

And I know lebanese people and iraqi people that will call it shisha instead of arghileh, but hey, thats ok.

Shisha tobacco makes sense, and i think its called shisha now because the tobacco from shisha tobacco got cut off out of laziness.
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see in uk we call the pipe shisha.. because are always saying we are calling it wrong lol (from the statesss!!!) lool
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If we americans cant do it wrong, whats the point in letting us do it?
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Haha, i only really say argilah, and refer to the tobacco as tobacco. I call it moassal in front of my fellow arabs, but i feel like i'd be showing off by saying moassal in front of Americans.
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pipe i call hookah, tobacco i call tobacco.... yeah.
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I always thought it was a shisha pipe because you smoke shisha with it.
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Oh, and by the way, fuck you too, (to those 11 so far).
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Oh, and by the way, fuck you too, (to those 11 so far).
aw, photo, you know i love you - i'm just far too old to be changing now
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Oh, and by the way, fuck you too, (to those 11 so far).
You might not have wanted to make that a choice! LOL
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