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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:07 PM
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Hey guys, I ordered these charcoals because I read too many good things about them. Everyone wrote they lasts longer and bla bla but for some reason my session goes only for 30 mins. Someone wrote that using a wind cover makes a difference so I tried that as well but still max is 30-35 mins. I dont know if I am doing something wrong or is there a better way to use them?!?! Please help me out!

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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:15 PM
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are you using one or two coals... they seem to only last that long for me when I use one, but with two coals and a wind cover they last about an hour until the smoke thins... It also depends alot on the bowl I know larger bowls need more heat where as a small bowl I can ussually get away with just one. I have no idea because even without a wind cover they ussualy last atleast 50mins... but I ussually always use two at a time.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:18 PM
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I used 2 for Egyptian bowl and 3 for phunnel. After exact 25-30 mins the smoke gets really thin. I even tried the tangiers and AF but no difference.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:51 PM
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Did they burn up or did they just stop producing heat?
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:07 PM
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if they burned your tobacco up, and you were complaining about lack of smoke vs coughing up blood, it may be time to see your doctor.

If its more of the fact the coals didnt last that long, well just throw some more coals on. Also, if you have questions about anything, John is known for having good customer service, so you should ask him if we cannot help you.

30minutes isnt that bad, I usually get 40-45 tops off a coconut charcoal.
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Weird...I throw three coco coals on a phunnel or vortex and it ll smoke for an hour minimum with multiple people.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:24 PM
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did u ash them alot? i notice when i ash CH coals alot they dont last as long so try not moving them as much as possible.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:33 PM
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Did you wait until they were completely lit (bright red all around, no more black spots) before putting them on the bowl?

My first attempt with CH coals, I was eager to try them, so I took the one I was using (microphunnel bowl) off the burner early and blew on it to try and get it heated rest of the way, but it only last me 15 min where others have lasted me an hour. After that, I've been getting better sessions now that I'm more patient about the coals .
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:33 PM
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How much Moassel are you using?

If you are using a medium egyptian bowl it only hold 10 grams which is about right for 30 min.
With a vortex you should easily get 1 hour to 1.5 hour if packed right.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:35 PM
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How frequently are you taking hits? Hitting it frequently could also shorten the life of the coal.
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when I'm really stressed out, like right now, i go through a cube in 7 minutes flat due to the rapid long deep drags.
but seriously, they can last from 30-50 minutes depending on the batch, how long they've been exposed to air/moisture/humidity. but still 30 minutes is good. i remember using bulk coal before cubes and it seemed like i was adding coal every 10-15, turning flipping etc.
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even with people smoking the crap out of the bowl i get an hour at least.

how big were the coals when the smoke got thin? you should be able to smoke them down easily to half with out a lot of smoke loss and with a wind cover you can get them down really small

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Weird...I throw three coco coals on a phunnel or vortex and it ll smoke for an hour minimum with multiple people.
I have to master your techniqe... I tried three on a vortex once and it was completly burnt withen 20mins... to much heat...

is there a specail way to pack it? I leave room and pack it nice and loose... maybe I should try with two things of foil but Im using hd foil so I figure that wouldnt be nessary.
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I have to master your techniqe... I tried three on a vortex once and it was completly burnt withen 20mins... to much heat...

is there a specail way to pack it? I leave room and pack it nice and loose... maybe I should try with two things of foil but Im using hd foil so I figure that wouldnt be nessary.
you should keep the coals to the out side, if you put them in closer to the center you will burn it pretty fast for sure

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I used 3 ch today on a small phunnel with no burning today. I just do what they say and keep the cools towards the outside.
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Weird...I throw three coco coals on a phunnel or vortex and it ll smoke for an hour minimum with multiple people.
i cant replicate that by myself even man
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Old August 4th, 2009, 09:54 PM
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ok something i might be noticing here

those that are getting shorter times out of these coals just from this thread seem to be in much dryer places where as the ones getting longer seem to be in more humid environments

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Guilty, I've really mostly used CH products while being in a desert.
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ok something i might be noticing here

those that are getting shorter times out of these coals just from this thread seem to be in much dryer places where as the ones getting longer seem to be in more humid environments

-matt
makes sense. I live in arizona and i can easily get about an hour out of my CH Nats.
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its humid in arizona?
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its humid in arizona?
LOL my bad, i completely read that wrong. Somehow i read it as the dryer locations get longer sessions. LOL damn i must be tired or something.
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In South Florida I get about 45 minutes average. I keep the box in a zip lock bag so that they stay a little dryier.
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i just leave the box out, i kinda fold the plastic back down and close the box but thats it. even my first bowl from the box gives me 60-70 mins easy idk

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yeah, i would say i get about 40 minutes out of my CH coals. And oregon is prety borderline on the humidity thing. i think....
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ok something i might be noticing here

those that are getting shorter times out of these coals just from this thread seem to be in much dryer places where as the ones getting longer seem to be in more humid environments

-matt
put the coals in a humidor if you're in a dry place and see what happens...this is very interesting
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