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Old September 13th, 2009, 04:35 PM
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Hi All.

My name is Dillan, from London.

I'm a die hard Hookah enthusiast, even at uni, started the "Middle Eastern Appreciation Society" where we had sheesha nights etc..

Anyway, now as i head towards my late 20's im launching my first Hookah lounge.

Any tips and advice welcome.

My immediate request is i need between 50-100 Khalil Mamoon Hookahs with pipes and wide shallow dish topies for my lounge.
I require the 28-30" tall ones with clear glass bottoms.

Having read various posts, I think some of you are pros...

I either want to buy these in London, or Go direct to Cairo and purchase them to ship back.

I have 5 hookah cafes opening in the next 6 months, and thus i will need additional stock soon after..

Any supply chains on Alfakher or Star Buzz tobacco for the UK is always welcome, as UK duty/tax on tobacco is very high etc etc,..

Thanks guys!
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Old September 13th, 2009, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Im new.. need advice on supply of Khalil Mamoon

Im also in london, where abouts are you thinking of opening it up, may i ask, i might come down and smoke.

Also what are the coals you will be using?
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Old September 13th, 2009, 05:20 PM
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Hi.

I have one opening up in Stanmore, Watford, Wood Green, and then outside london, i hav agreed premises in Bristol, Bath, and Cardiff.

Where are you based!
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LOL opposite side of london im near stratford.

But i have seen they have been tons of places open recently and to be honest all have been crap and i wouldnt go again.

A few points to bear in mind are keep the decor nice, a lot of places have cheap seats and poor lighting, keep it nice, also if possible serve snacks and drinks like milk shakes and fresh juices.

If you can use natural coals, DONT use cheap quicklights, everyone does and the shisha is crap ( to be honest most people that come wont be able to tell the difference as they have had nothing but quick lights, but for the few like me that love naturals have a option at least)

Have many flavours available dont just go for the most popular that sell, have a variety, have house mixes as well.

If possible have different types of heads, maybe phunnels, or apple heads to make it a bit different.

If your looking for bulk KM pipes i say try edgware road and ask the shops or queensway, im sure someone will do them wholesale for you
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Old September 13th, 2009, 05:44 PM
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Hi Mate,

thanks.. Yes Al Mustafa are coming back with a price to me.. but i might make a trip to Cairo.

Decor will be simple. Area is 18m x 10m, and we have budgeted 30k for decor.

Yeah defo normal coals.. not swift or quicklites.. they ruin the taste..

We will have a milkshake and desert hut, on street side, and that will be the pull factor.

Yeah most have been shit, which is why im so passionate about a good Hookah lounge, that Im adamant on making this a success..

What is Phunnel? sorry, i havent heard that term before.

How do the apple heads work? we tried them at some bbq, but the fruit just disintegated in front of us as it smoked lol..

Yeah, we wanna have 20 shisha flavours, mainly Alfakher, but will consider other brands if there is any recommendations or feedback on others..

what about starbuzz / skybuzz or what ever they are called....

where is Queensway by the way? sorry i might know the road, just not the name lol...

Is it by Angel/Islington?

we are thinking of using intimate lighting, modern theme with moroccan lamps to mix and make it low lit and ambient.. whats ur thoughts..

any sheesha cafes you have seen that you like would be great to know so i can peak at them..

What do you think of Moroccan Gardens out in East London.
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Default Re: Im new.. need advice on supply of Khalil Mamoon

I havent even heard of it to tell you the truth, were is it near?

Queensway is 2 stop after marble arch on the central line

Apple heads are actually really easy to make a quick youtube video should show you how to make them.

And a phunnel is a type of bowl but it holds juices in, again the search function here will give you more details on them

I like the idea of your decor tho, but at 30k a bit over the top?
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Old September 13th, 2009, 06:19 PM
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its on Edgware Road..

i will check vids..

30k covers 8 plasmas with security mountings, 280 seater lounge so under seat and over seat lighting, cushions, stools, bean bags etc.., epos till system to link front and back areas, wireless ordering process via pdas, 18 camera IP with police connection and 24 monitoring, sound system and then the Hookahs and Tobacco.

Plus 200 sets of cuttlery, with designer cuttlery - then install for milkshake hut and storage for deserts in quad fridge/freezer etc..

the list goes on.. lol

we might cut down on bits as actual financial data starts to feed into my calculation model, and where we have underestimated true costs, will just cut back else where, and vice versa.

I have just been offered 10 KM for 25 a piece from some chick in Leicester who is dealin in them.. brand new etc...

how does this price rack up with what you or others have been offered.
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10 kms for 25.00 each is a bargain im itrested if you have over stock
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I can get standard KM's that hookah lounges have for 25 without buying wholesale, so it might be a tad expensive, i think if you place a ad on gumtree someone will respond or you can ask online UK hookah vendor if they have any contacts.

I dont think you should pay over 20 if your buying over 100 of them.

Also have you considered using washable hose instead of standard metal coiled hoses?
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also where abouts in stanmore/watford i live in stanmore i am interested also any jobs going i ca set up an hookah
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yeah, i have, but i have always prefered the thicker wired versions with the large solid foot long straight grip.. unless u can think of others..

If maintained well and cleaned out regularly, they will last for a long time..

wash out is good too, but they still have rust issues dont they?
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Azy786.. hi.. email me on dillan.vaghela@live.com and when we are ready to launch, i can give you details..

Im doing a soft opening at a Location in Kingsbury this friday...

email me your contact details and address.

I live at the top of Stanmore Hill, so we can meet any time to discuss
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Default Re: Im new.. need advice on supply of Khalil Mamoon

I was thinking hoses like these
http://www.nazarhookah.com/index.php...d72d17tna15ct3

They have the long grip you want and are washable, plus wholesale rate on them is quiet a bit cheaper

The ones you are thinking of are the KM hoses and they will rust if water goes through them
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Old September 13th, 2009, 06:54 PM
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yes, these look right..

I have researched on them, still pricey though.. some sell them for 15 each online, but id rather get the other ones and keep 100s on replacement so as they need changing, i change them..

do you know where i can find your recommendation cheaper?
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also going to egyept and getting that many hookahs shipped back will be a killing in shipping. people have inquired on hookah pro and it can be just as expensive to get it shipped back as the price of the hookah.
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The Moroccan Garden is out towards Essex side.. near Ilford
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wow.. expensive indeed... the thought scares me.. i have to look for work arounds on courier.. or alternatively...

The only lucky thing is that my mother still has a corporate trade account with British Airways, and thus i get my flights for near nothing, and me and sibling can go over and bring it back with a little excess luggage that they will charge,,.
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http://www.britishairways.com/travel...c/public/en_gb
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send me your contact details via email please so i can have them on file and I shall be calling you this week.

Yeah BA is expensive, but again i get discounts etc..
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also be carfull when running a shisha caf in the uk.
there is a caf in stanmore called sahaarah lounge. they got set up by the police by sending in 14 and 15 year old kids to see if they would get let in and they did and the police fined them a huge amount.
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as far as the hookah's and shisha goes....you need natural coals (to differentiate yourself from the other cafes that use cheap quicklight coals), atleast some Al-Nakhla or Tangiers to keep the people who want a buzz happy....maybe some Desi Murli shisha for the hardcore smokers and get a nice variety of Hookah's. KMs are the way to goo definitaly. Also to make your hookah's really stand out you could try getting some KMs with the chillers...that would really set you apart from the regular cafes....good luck with your business venture
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http://www.hookahroyal.com/acatalog/km_shishacafe.html

Heres a suggestion for the pipes.

Might be worthwhile getting some other, better looking pipes, and charge extra for them, or let loyal customers use them.
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yes, these look right..

I have researched on them, still pricey though.. some sell them for 15 each online, but id rather get the other ones and keep 100s on replacement so as they need changing, i change them..

do you know where i can find your recommendation cheaper?
Contact nazar hookah they manufacture them, im sure they are a lot cheaper wholesale

Also if you dont want washable hoses, just go to egypt and bring back the KM hoses they cost 2 max and im sure you can bring back 50-60 in a suitcase and your weight allowance, and since you get cheap flights, this imo is the best option.

Also maybe you can keep one hose per flavour or one pipe per flavour, because DA ghost in the hookah and the hose for a while, so if you have one pipe just for DA one for just mints etc it will make your hookah and hoses last longer

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The Moroccan Garden is out towards Essex side.. near Ilford
Have you got a address i ive literally 5 mins from ilford, il pop down when they start opening in the day, is it on cranbrooke road?

[quote=The Boss;195473]wow.. expensive indeed... the thought scares me.. i have to look for work arounds on courier.. or alternatively...

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Have you tried DHL, i think they let you bring pallets in from foreign countrys for 200 or 300, so its not that bad
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Have you considered setting up a shop near a university? Brighton would be good because there are actually two unis that feed into the town.

Also Canterbury because im going there and cant find any hookah bars nearby :P
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I would highly recommend keeping a stock of Nakhla Shisha if possible. It is very cheap and offer s a larger buzz than most shisha. Perhaps have your servers ask your customers if it is their first time smoking hookah, then reccomend starbuzz or AF. And for more experienced, Nakhla, to reduce the amount of people puking and such from nicotine sickness.
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