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Old September 15th, 2009, 12:57 AM
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I consider the people who take the time to browse and contribute to the forums to be the most educated when it comes to hookah knowledge. You can see from a lot of the discussions here that nakhla is king of shisha. Also not everyone that has an opinion is posting. I wanted to ask why nakhla, and why not so much a brand like starbuzz.
Starbuzz is twice the price as nakhla. I have my own opinions as well and smoke nakhla at least twice a week but sb more like twice a year (a bit more but just to show you the difference)
I'd like to ask, if the prices were the opposite would you switch?
I'm currently smoking tangerine dream by sb and only have it open since I had some friends visit my booth this past weekend at a festival; they are avid sb people and I opened them a tin to smoke while we were there. They have no problem w sb prices, smoke almost daily and would frown upon me serving or suggesting nakhla. These folks are a bit older and can splurge on sb.
My question to you is would you be pro sb and less inclined to smoke nakhla if the prices were switched.
(Disclaimer: this has nothing to do with me being a vendor, especially since this will never happen. Please don't take this as any type of vendor thread)
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

Well, I do like some sb flavors, however, Nakhla has more of a natural taste than sb IMO. You can tell sb has artificial flavoring. If sb was less expensive, maybe I would buy it more often but still not as much as other brands.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

Money is only a factor to me when it comes to buying hookahs since they cost way more but when it comes to shisha I don't mind spending $20 or more, I smoked all brands, as longs as I got pay checks coming in every week I am fine with it.

EDIT : This question looks like it is more directed to the nakhla junkies. lol
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

As a matter a fact if I was a fan of ed hardy shisha I would drop $35 on it all the time. lolll
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

Personally, if I enjoy the flavor and have the money, I'll smoke it. Being in college with little income, I'd prefer not to drop $20+ on 250g's of tobacco, but on occasion I do enjoy me some Starbuzz.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

my opinion of nakhla wouldn't change if the prices of the two brands were reversed. the only reason i buy starbuzz is because my local smoke shop sells it and not nakhla. if it were the other way around i doubt i'd smoke much starbuzz at all.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

Don't get me wrong I love smoking starbuzz and I have a few favorites but many of their flavors are almost artificial, candyish chemical taste. Example: Smoking Citrus Mist one night and my one friend said it tastes like laundry soap. I smoke what I like regardless of price, generally I try to go for the best flavors a brand makes, when I was new all I bought was starbuzz, but now I like a bit of a buzz and since Nakhla is unwashed it does the trick and the flavors taste more like what they are supposed to taste like and it just so happens to be inexpensive. It really doesn't matter what the price is, if starbuzz was $9 for 250g and tasted like shit I wouldnt buy it but I sure as hell would shell out $22 for Nakhla if it tasted right (Don't get any ideas John lol). Its not the price that dictates my buying habits but the quality.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

Good question, I really think I would still dislike Starbuzz though. It's practically smoking sugar while Nakhla is more traditional, which is right up my alley.

That said, if the prices were switched and Starbuzz was the cheapest molasses on the market, then I would definitely have a lot more in my stash.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

I'll talk about Nakhla DA and I am not gonna talk about other flavors simply becauseI smoke Nakhla DA 95% of the time, I am willing to pay up to $25 for 250g of it for two reasons. First, it is natural and doesn't have that artificial taste that make you feel like smoking chemicals. Second, it is very consistent and you know exactly what are u getting when u order it.

So, to answer your question. No, the price is not a factor and I will continue to buy Nakhla DA even if the price goes up.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

for me its flavor first and i love tangiers noir line and then i would fo to af or nakhla but when it comes to me buying shisha sometime the money comes into play because i like to get the most shisha i can
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Old September 15th, 2009, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

i like only a few flavors of starbuzz and i only smoke buy SB about...once or twice a year. no more than 250g.

i have just recently switched from af/sb to nakhla only with a little bit of AF, simply because i give no fucks about clouds anymore (i get big clouds with nakhla, and HUGE clouds with el basha/mizo nakhla. i love the natural/strong taste that comes with nakhla, and how every batch tastes the same (unlike AF). i like how i can get a small buzz with nak too.

if the prices were switched (which hopefully they don't), i would still buy nak, but not nearly as much at a time.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

I think they both have their appeals. Nakhla is a different animal in my opinion... and i am a fan of all but two flavors of theirs i have tried.

SB has an ass-ton of flavors and honestly most of them dont appeal to me at all. Flavors like Pumpkin Pie, Citrus Mist, and Passion Kiss have done well by me though.

I dont think my opinion would change, but i would probably be more willing to try new flavors of SB if it was cheaper. I am SOOOOO afraid of dropping 20-25 bones on tobacco only to find out i hate it.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

If SB/Fantasia were half the price of Salloum I wouldn't but because I hate getting stuff that is 50%+ glycerin and the artificial falvours are just unpalatable to me. Nakhla makes several good products and i'd be willing to 50% more then I normally do for the flavours I like if I had to. I don't mind paying SB prices for high quality stuff but I expect a lot at 20 bucks for 250g and since I can get all sorts of great stuff for a lot less I don't pay SB like prices too often. In the end I don't smoke Nakhla nearly as much as a lot of other brands but the same basic attitude about price remains.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

Ehhhh...I dont buy quanity when buying tobacco, I just buy what I wanna smoke for the next month or 2 so...If the prices were to switch I might try more flavors of Starbuzz but when it come down to it I just buy the stuff I like and thats Nakhla.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

I would have to say that if the prices were switched, then i would probably have more SB. But I love the way Nakhla smokes, how consistent the flavors are, and how natural they are. I much prefer the natural flavors over the more artificial ones. Yes, I will smoke the candyish shisha on occasion, and yes, I will like it. But I could not smoke that all the time. If Nakhla cost me $20 for a 250g, I would still buy it over SB. I love Nakhla for how well it smokes, the fact that I can get a 250g box of it for under $7 just happens to be a pirk
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Old September 15th, 2009, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

its not about the price to me. i own a wide selection of tobacco all from nakhla to fusion sb..etc etc... my favorite brand is tangiers. I havent had any problems with it... acclimation was never a factor i open the bag and pack the bowl and smoke... i also love al fakher.. even the grape... lol i feel like the only guy on earth that hasnt had a problem with tobacco... ahh to get back on subject.. no price is not a factor in my buying... if i get one flavor from a brand i usually try another... i read reviews as well.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

I consider it a blessing that Nakhla has such a low price tag. To strictly answer you question, no the price tag would not make a difference at all. To me, it's like the difference between going to a gas station and spending 3 or 4 dollars on a pre-made, probably crappy coffee, or making a much better cup at home for only pennies.
The only reason I could really forsee being more SB inclined in that situation is if my wallet were pissed at me, or I was really craving candy.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

If the pricing were swiched around I would buy more SB only to be able to try all the flavors. I would hate to pay that high price whether it's Nakhla or Starbuzz and find out I did'nt like the flavor.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

I buy what i likeregardless of price, recently i have been buying a lot more nakhla then anything else, as i prefer the natural flavour it has, but i also enjoy some SB flavours like sfari melon dew and margaria, so price really doesnt bother me, as long as the taste is to my liking
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Old September 15th, 2009, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

I wasn't going to comment, as everyone knows which I prefer, but i feel the need to. I like a few SB flavors, like Christmas Mix, Pumpkin Pie, Citrus Mist, and Safari Melon Dew. I have never bought any SB product, but I've traded for some. None of the above flavors are worth $20 or more for 250 G. Would I buy a 250 of them for $9-12, yes. Would I try a SB flavor I've never had before in hopes that I like it for $9-12? No way! I love Nakhla and Salloum, both are at least twice as good as SB and not even half the price.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 07:08 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

Although i like some SB flavours, Nakhla is waay better especially Nakhla watermelon which is the best flavour out there at the moment. Nakhla all the way and prce has nothing to do with it
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Old September 15th, 2009, 07:18 AM
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If the prices were reversed, I think I'd stock more SB flavors and less of Nakhla flavors that I don't smoke often but my bias would still be towards Nakhla. If anything, higher Nakhla prices would make me buy more Tangiers (OG and lucid) although I don't really need more reasons to buy more than I already am. Actually, I just got back from his lounge with another kilo, lol!
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Old September 15th, 2009, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

i know i would sure be ordering more SB to try flavors. i think one of the issues is that its expensive so people only want to try the more unusual flavors and then get turned off from the whole brand when some of the more simple flavors might be great smokes.

i have honestly tried less than 10 SB flavors, most were decent (granted 2 were out of very very dirty hookahs so idk how the flavors are really cause they tasted horrid but its was mostly the super dirty mya taste). were as ive tried 25ish of nakhla cause up if i hate the flavor i lost less than 10 bucks, and rarely do i hate the flavors, just might rarely smoke them

i would say price is probably a factor and i would probably order more SB if the prices were reversed but if it was all the same price i know i would order more nakhla but i sure would be willing to drop cash on SB

from what ive been hearing JMs seems to be the better buy compared to SB so maybe that will become a larger brand in my stash once i try some, not much more expensive than nakhla so im up for it

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Old September 15th, 2009, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

If nakhla were 20$/per 250...I would buy less, but still buy my favorites.

If starbuzz were 10$...I still would not buy it.
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Default Re: is money the only factor or not?

Luckily I don't have that problem here for Tangiers, Starbuzz and all those fancy Moassels did not make it that far. Here it is a Choice between Nakhla, Afzal, Al Faker, Al Waha and some lesser known brands.

Nakhla is the one consistant smoke I have found and will stick too. No matter the Price.
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