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Old November 18th, 2009, 04:54 PM
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Hey im sorry if what i am asking is overly redundant and over asked but i need some help and fast!

I have nargile pipe from turkey (full sized with a clay bowl) and ive been having very little luck getting a proper session.

Ive been using it on a small basis and with the tobacco i bought there....
I was getting no flavor what soever from the tobacco be it nakhla strawberry or apple... the only thing i could taste was a chemically taste from the instant coals i have....today i bought a 50g pack of Al Waha Peach and tried it and got some taste from it and a very chemical taste again. I need some help by tomorrow so any and all comments are appreciated.

to help this is how ive set up every session.

I take the tobacco and stir then break it up a bit.
I pack it loosely into the bowl but up to just below the rim.
I use plain cool water out of the tap and to the right amount...
All the seals are good and the pipe pulls like it should
I use two instant light coals 4cm full and place them at two ends so that they hang over the sides a bit...

I dont know if i am packing the bowl too loosely or if i have crappy coals or if im using too much heat (probably no cus. it never gets harsh) or what
so please help me
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Old November 18th, 2009, 04:56 PM
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typically chemical coal taste means your coals aren't lit fully or you are using crap coals...
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Old November 18th, 2009, 05:00 PM
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When you light the coals, make sure they are 100% red on all sides before you smoke them. You may also want to look into getting natural coals. Most of them have little to no flavor. Either way, you want to make sure they're fully red on all sides before smoking.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 05:48 PM
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how far is your stem into the water? try making the stem so it is only 1 inch in the water and adding a bit more tobacco.

If you check my pics in the forum somewhere, you will see I probably have the same Nargile as you and my mate also has one from Turkey, which is bigger than mine.

Last summer i was getting great sessions going, with huge clouds, i was using normal charcoal at the time (from instant light bags you would use for a bbq) and it was awsome.

My hose is now bolloxed, the stem is damaged where the hose goes in, so my sessions are now crap an am looking to invest in a Khalil Pipe very soon.

I would try a different coal (my experience with the instant light discs are that they ruin the taste and make it harsh as they are placed in the middle of the foil), maybe some coconara or japanese coals?

Anyway, that's just my little input, let me know if any of it helps!
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Old November 18th, 2009, 05:54 PM
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everthing your doing sounds ok. I might suggest a natural coal such as a coconut tab or an exotica(both produce higher heat than a QL coal). Also, you may not be poking enough holes in your foil. Good luck and keep us posted on your success, or lack there of.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 06:09 PM
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Try getting a new hose
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Old November 18th, 2009, 06:16 PM
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Last summer i was getting great sessions going, with huge clouds, i was using normal charcoal at the time (from instant light bags you would use for a bbq) and it was awsome.
I dont think this is very safe coals like that produce excess carbon monoxide so i hear, plus the chemicals from the instant light aspect dont sound to healthy although the same can be said for hookah specific quicklights...
I trust my cocos to give my sessions the best clean heat

as for your sessions bigglesworth, I think one QL coal will suffice, 2 sounds like a bit much for a normal sized egyptian bowl, even if both are hanging off the edge
QL's tend to burn much hotter in my experience, since the coal is muc more compacted compared to other coals
and like others have said make sure the coals have ashed completely over, even though youll still get a slight taste from QLs, it will def help with your problem
best of luck!
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yea I'm with Monkeyfresh here... no Kingsford on your KM...
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Old November 18th, 2009, 09:21 PM
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I used to have that same problem with those cursed circular quicklites. Once they appear fully lit, set them off to the side for a few minutes before putting them on the bowl, this will allow any unburnt chemicals to have a fair chance of burning off....hope that helps.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 09:41 PM
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i was using normal charcoal at the time (from instant light bags you would use for a bbq)
Is it me, but does using BBQ coals sound like a REALLY REALLY REALLY bad idea?
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Is it me, but does using BBQ coals sound like a REALLY REALLY REALLY bad idea?

Definitely a horrible idea, unless you like to wake up dead.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 11:08 PM
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please direguard my ignorance if someone has mentioned it already, but...

Are you using foil? if not you should be lol. you didnt mention it in your setup explanation so just making sure.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 11:14 PM
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i had really bad headaches and some after taste with golden roll QL's before. I would suggest from my own experience, the Quick light coconut coals from Hookah John aka ******* hookah Quick light coals, he also has the natural version of the same coals. No taste after they're lit, although you do need to light them outside like all QL's.

If you cant buy them online for whatever reason, most naturals should suffice. coconut coals are recommended, from Coconara or from Hookah John.
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