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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:45 PM
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Default Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

Well i finally got down and dirty opening all of my shisha and putting it into its respective labeled baggies... I noticed FIVE of the containers stating... 6 of 2005...

I am like WTF. So... I instantly went to my computer and Live Chatted hookah-shisha...

This is what hookah-shisha states for their clearance...
"This tobacco is being sold at a Clearance price because its packaging is either damaged, leaky, or otherwise not fit to sell at full retail price. The tobacco inside is the same quality you should normally expect from Al Waha despite minor leaks in plastic packaging. Because the packaging for this tobacco may not be 100% air-tight, we encourage you to smoke your Clearance Al Waha Tobacco within six months of purchase. "


This is our conversation...

Doug: ok it looks like the expired shisha you ordered was the clearance shisha from your order
you: it doesnt say that i am buying expired tobacco.
you: its like selling expired milk... you don't see that sold at discounted prices. its not good business.
Doug: if you would like to return this clearance shisha you can do so if you are unsatisfied. The shisha is expired but is still good to smoke
Doug: we will refund you for it if you like
you: I have up to date shisha and the expired of the same flavor... the difference in smell and wetness factor isn't even comparable.
you: And i opened a boxes before i noticed the date, will that be a arising problem also?
Doug: we will not accept any opened products
you: then what are my options for the opened shisha?
Doug: smoke it or throw it away


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This is absolutely ridiculous... It's seriously just has me mad.

Clearance Al Waha 50g Flavor #1:: cappucino x5
Clearance Al Waha 250g (Jar) Flavor #1:: vanilla
Clearance Al Waha 250g (Jar) Flavor #2:: vanilla
Clearance Al Waha 250g Jar Flavor #3:: guava

All expired, smells horrid, smokes BAD, and taste even worse. Bad purchase.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

I don't understand why you would buy clearance tobacco, I could see a bowl or something but why tobacco?
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

Well there's your problem. You ordered clearance al waha...

Even fresh al waha has a bit of a funky smell to it depending on the flavor but to be honest it's most of them.

There is one line that is very important to this subject "or it otherwise unfit to sell at full retail price". That covers any reason that they would not be able to justify charging full price. Be happy. A lot of other vendors and shops will sell expired tobacco at full price.

Also consider the fact that hookah tobacco rarely has issues with expiration dates and going bad. I have tobacco from a couple years ago and I know people that intentionally try to seek out "vintage" AF to try and get that AF grape bliss that they miss.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

+3 to what has been said.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:58 PM
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Well i finally got down and dirty opening all of my shisha and putting it into its respective labeled baggies... I noticed FIVE of the containers stating... 6 of 2005...

I am like WTF. So... I instantly went to my computer and Live Chatted hookah-shisha...

This is what hookah-shisha states for their clearance...
"This tobacco is being sold at a Clearance price because its packaging is either damaged, leaky, or otherwise not fit to sell at full retail price. The tobacco inside is the same quality you should normally expect from Al Waha despite minor leaks in plastic packaging. Because the packaging for this tobacco may not be 100% air-tight, we encourage you to smoke your Clearance Al Waha Tobacco within six months of purchase. "


This is our conversation...

Doug: ok it looks like the expired shisha you ordered was the clearance shisha from your order
you: it doesnt say that i am buying expired tobacco.
you: its like selling expired milk... you don't see that sold at discounted prices. its not good business.
Doug: if you would like to return this clearance shisha you can do so if you are unsatisfied. The shisha is expired but is still good to smoke
Doug: we will refund you for it if you like
you: I have up to date shisha and the expired of the same flavor... the difference in smell and wetness factor isn't even comparable.
you: And i opened a boxes before i noticed the date, will that be a arising problem also?
Doug: we will not accept any opened products
you: then what are my options for the opened shisha?
Doug: smoke it or throw it away


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This is absolutely ridiculous... It's seriously just has me mad.

Clearance Al Waha 50g Flavor #1:: cappucino x5
Clearance Al Waha 250g (Jar) Flavor #1:: vanilla
Clearance Al Waha 250g (Jar) Flavor #2:: vanilla
Clearance Al Waha 250g Jar Flavor #3:: guava

All expired, smells horrid, smokes BAD, and taste even worse. Bad purchase.
Their Capp. and Guava taste bad even fresh. I wouldn't blame H-S for that. And it was only like 4 bucks anyway. Think of it as a 16 dollar + shipping lesson learned.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

Unlucky buy.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

There must be a curse on people who buy 50g boxes of Al Waha when it's discounted in some way! It happened to me anyway, not with H-S though, with another company and I forget which one... Basically I ordered quite a few of the little boxes and the company got literally one sixth of the order correct, then were unresponsive.


Edit: It appears to have been H-S as well. I remember it was a 12-pack of AW 50g boxes and H-S offers that. What it says about ordering that offer has changed however, before it didn't say anything like what it says now.

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Old November 30th, 2009, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

Also you can't really compare tobacco to milk haha
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Old November 30th, 2009, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

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I don't understand why you would buy clearance tobacco, I could see a bowl or something but why tobacco?
--- When i was buying it... It was during the black friday special. It was the SAME price, so i didn't notice there was even a difference.

So it went undetected that it was clearance.

I mean, now that i notice that i bought it... whoops. but the fact they don't state that it is out of date... by YEARS! is shIsty (shy-sty)... Even if i would have bought it the clearance without the ignorance, i still wouldn't expect to receive expired shisha.

My fault none the less... Just a lame experience.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 01:39 AM
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thats gross
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Old November 30th, 2009, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

That sucks, but you take a gamble buying something that is on clearance.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

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That sucks, but you take a gamble buying something that is on clearance.
To his credit, H-S didn't label the Al Waha as clearance. They were labeled as "Special Black Friday sale" With this on the item page:

"These select flavors of Al Waha 250g Jars are on sale for Black Friday for 50% off! These jars are not damaged or leaky in any way and taste as great as you'd expect from Al Waha Tobacco."
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Old November 30th, 2009, 02:22 AM
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That's just gross, especially when they didnt even label it clearance, just "black friday specials".

I think you should try there livechat again, maybe you cant get ar refund, but you should be able to get a pretty big discount on your next order.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 03:42 AM
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Sucks man, sounds like some bad luck...
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Old November 30th, 2009, 10:29 AM
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I always buy any Romman they have on special - not a single awful one yet ... and a few random amazing ones - Clearance Honey Melon
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Old November 30th, 2009, 10:52 AM
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I bought some Prince Chocolate Prod date 11/2005 expiry date 11/2007 and when I opened the sealed Bag it was Juicy and smelled very good and smokes amazing with full flavor. At least you Got Al Waha not like the fake Al Waha that has been floating around here on the flea markets that stuff is pure evil

Try adding a little glycerin and honey to it about half teaspoonfull of each to 50 grams should improve the flavor and smell (put into ziplock Baggie after rubbing it through the tobacco so that it can absorb the juice)
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Old November 30th, 2009, 10:56 AM
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That seems out of character for Hookah-Shisha.

I've had three issues with orders and in all of them H-S took immediate responsibility, requiring no additional money from me whatsoever. In fact in one of them, they sent a defective product. When I called, they replaced the product with two new ones and didn't ask me to send the defective one back.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 01:41 PM
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same thing happened to me. i got the normal 250 boxes of if and it was all expired by 4 years. sent them a email and all that got 1000 points and they let me keep the nasty stuff. never again will i buy alwaha just for the fact that stuff is plain nasty. My 2 cents.
O and H-S is amazing with customer service.
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Default Re: Hookah-Shisha Clearence Shisha... EXPIRED...

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--- When i was buying it... It was during the black friday special. It was the SAME price, so i didn't notice there was even a difference.
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To his credit, H-S didn't label the Al Waha as clearance. They were labeled as "Special Black Friday sale" With this on the item page:

"These select flavors of Al Waha 250g Jars are on sale for Black Friday for 50% off! These jars are not damaged or leaky in any way and taste as great as you'd expect from Al Waha Tobacco."
Not taking sides, but it is clearly stated on HS's site that while one is clearance, the other is black friday special.

http://www.hookah-shisha.com/p-5953-...y-special.html

http://www.hookah-shisha.com/p-2648-...a-250-jar.html

They could've been more responsive to the problem. You wouldn't think that an otherwise "damaged" package would be expired as well ("The tobacco inside is the same quality you should normally expect from Al Waha despite minor leaks in plastic packaging." ), as there's no mention of it on that page. Sucks, but I guess you live and learn.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 03:55 PM
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Isn't it illegal to sell something expired?
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Old November 30th, 2009, 04:03 PM
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Isn't it illegal to sell something expired?
I think that's only for food.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 04:18 PM
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I think that's only for food.
Wouldn't that count with the molasses and such?
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Wouldn't that count with the molasses and such?
It's not a food product though.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 05:10 PM
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i just recently smoked some stuff made in 06, but it was sealed up perfect, seamed fine to me. but then again im a noob.
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Seems kinda shady if it wasn't labeled as clearance as shawn said. Although even if it was labeled clearance I would just take it as it is going to expire soon not all ready expired.
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