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Old January 4th, 2010, 02:15 PM
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So, this is my first hookah that I bought (with no prior knowledge) at a bazaar on my voyages. I bought it because I wanted a souvenir but when I arrived home I wanted to try it.
It was fun and soon I got addicted
So I started to learn about hookas and I realized that my hookah was a piece of junk but it still remains a beautiful souvenir
But the problem arose when I wanted to clean it.
The problem is that it has an aluminum stem (I believed that it was copper) and that got me wondering "If it is chinese made, can it be washed without any further complications?"

So, here's the stem. Partially disassembled.




The heart of the hookah is superglued to the stem so it can't be removed.
The bottom and top parts of the stem are threaded. The conical bowl holder screws on top and the bottom part of the stem is made of 4,7 inch long (threaded) copper tube.

Now, can you guys help me in figuring a way to clean it? I have read a lot of material on copper and aluminum rusting and I haven't done it before.
The main problem is the heart part of the hookah because it cannot be accessed.

Please help.

p.s. Sorry for the bad pictures. I was using the camera on my mobile phone.

p.s.s Of course, I'm on the market for a new hookah that is, preferably, made out of stainless steel. Any suggestions?

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Old January 4th, 2010, 08:58 PM
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common chambered rigs are a bitch to clean. I would advize gettin in there w/some lemon juice/baking soda and letting it soak for a bit(don't be afraid to shake it up!).
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Old January 4th, 2010, 09:32 PM
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am i missing something or do you not have a down stem?

vinegar should be safe and should be pretty inert after its rinsed. if you are really want to get in and scrub the chamber you can go look for a flexible brush like is used for brass instruments or pipe cleaners or the like. even water and dish soap work well just make sure to wash it well

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Old January 5th, 2010, 06:19 AM
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am i missing something or do you not have a down stem?
Down stem?
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Old January 5th, 2010, 06:50 AM
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The part of the stem, which goes down into the base, under the water
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:48 AM
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The part of the stem, which goes down into the base, under the water




yes I have it. The bottom part of the heart is threaded where you screw on a 4 inch copper tube.

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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:51 AM
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hey man i own two agers and both are washable carful of the tray though
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:56 AM
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The down stem unscrews from the actual stem it screws into the stem. The actual stem is not super glued to the heart normaly it just screws into the heart and the purge valve and hose port should unscrew as well (Normaly there is a bit of locktite or other thread locking compound on it)
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Old January 5th, 2010, 08:35 AM
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hey man i own two agers and both are washable carful of the tray though
careful of the tray? why?

p.s. do your agers have aluminum stems and have they shown any signs of corrosion?

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Old January 5th, 2010, 08:37 AM
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The down stem unscrews from the actual stem it screws into the stem. The actual stem is not super glued to the heart normaly it just screws into the heart and the purge valve and hose port should unscrew as well (Normaly there is a bit of locktite or other thread locking compound on it)
yes, i have seen the locktite but I couldn't unscrew it.

would it be smarter to leave the whole thing in once piece and to just clean it with lemon juice and baking soda?
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Old January 5th, 2010, 09:54 AM
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careful of the tray? why?

p.s. do your agers have aluminum stems and have they shown any signs of corrosion?
corrosion is only an issue on steel (well for all intensive purposes/in the usage of hookah) non ferrous metals as a whole build up a layer of oxide/patina as apposed to rust which eats into the material. Aluminum oxidizes very very very fast in air but once the layer of al oxide is formed the corrosion stops. the oxide layer on AL does rub off very easily but its not a big deal because it grows right back and honestly you will not wear it off enough to notice any real change even over years and years

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Old January 5th, 2010, 10:20 AM
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yes, i have seen the locktite but I couldn't unscrew it.

would it be smarter to leave the whole thing in once piece and to just clean it with lemon juice and baking soda?
Inspect the heart by shining a light into it through the holes in the bottom you will have to remove the ball from the purge to clean that lemon juice and baking soda should work fine
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Old January 5th, 2010, 06:01 PM
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lemon juice and baking soda should work fine
This might sound stupid. Do you use pure (freshly squeezed) lemon juice or mixed with water?
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This might sound stupid. Do you use pure (freshly squeezed) lemon juice or mixed with water?
just use the bottled stuff thats supposedly pure. honestly i have used plain white vinegar, its strong, works a bit better, and a crap load cheaper, just need a tiny bit more rinsing to make sure its all out

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Old January 5th, 2010, 06:25 PM
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just use the bottled stuff thats supposedly pure. honestly i have used plain white vinegar, its strong, works a bit better, and a crap load cheaper, just need a tiny bit more rinsing to make sure its all out

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I'll take your advice and use white vinegar.
Please, can you describe me the process of cleaning your hookah (vinegar and baking soda).
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a lot of people mix the baking soda and lemon together, i dont see the point since that neutralizes the 2 things.

when i used my mya i would first rinse it out, wet a brush, put a little dawn dish soap in it and scrub the crap out of it, rinse it all out very well, then fill it with vinegar while plugging the stem with my finger and hold it for about 30 seconds. then drain and rinse it out well. with that plated common chamber you have you jsut need to figure out how to get in there. i would maybe even try to jsut soak the whole stem in vinegar for any where from 5 mins to an hour or more to get it cleaned this first big time.

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Old January 5th, 2010, 06:42 PM
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a lot of people mix the baking soda and lemon together, i dont see the point since that neutralizes the 2 things.

when i used my mya i would first rinse it out, wet a brush, put a little dawn dish soap in it and scrub the crap out of it, rinse it all out very well, then fill it with vinegar while plugging the stem with my finger and hold it for about 30 seconds. then drain and rinse it out well. with that plated common chamber you have you jsut need to figure out how to get in there. i would maybe even try to jsut soak the whole stem in vinegar for any where from 5 mins to an hour or more to get it cleaned this first big time.

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and baking soda? when do you use it and how do you insert it into the heart of the hookah? After the vinegar and baking soda treatment do you rinse it with water?
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Old January 5th, 2010, 06:57 PM
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and baking soda? when do you use it and how do you insert it into the heart of the hookah? After the vinegar and baking soda treatment do you rinse it with water?
personally i never use baking soda except maybe on my hoses or if the stem has a smell that the vinegar doesnt kick out. i use a small funnel to get stuff into my stems. and yes always rise everything out with a lot of water.

if the inners of the stem and chamber are smooth unlike the myas they you can get away with just water for your general washes. i usually rinse, brush the stem, rinse and then push paper towel through on my KM that is smooth and twist up some paper towel and dry out the chamber tubes.

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thanks matt
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:03 PM
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matt, your hoses... are they washable (handmade or bought)?
how do you put baking soda into a 2 meter hose?
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Old January 5th, 2010, 07:26 PM
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matt, your hoses... are they washable (handmade or bought)?
how do you put baking soda into a 2 meter hose?
i have nammors, i usually will put a large funnel in the end after ive pulled the tip out, put baking soda in funnel and pour water through it (cool water). some times i try to mix it up some before i pour it in

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