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Old April 21st, 2010, 11:27 PM
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well i just got my vortex bowl, and sadly to say.I been getting much better results ,out of my medium clay egyptian.I try packing it the same way i pack my egyptian , and i have also watched many videos on how to pack it , but have not been getting any luck. i usualy smoke nakhla so anyone have any tips please ?
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Old April 21st, 2010, 11:28 PM
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btw the problem is that it gets really harsh , and session does not last that long at all. and i also get much more smoke out of my egyptian
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Old April 21st, 2010, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: vortex bowl problems :(

Yeah, Nakhla smokes best out of an egyptian bowl. Vortex bowls are best for wet tobaccos like Starbuzz, Al Fakher, Layalina, Social Smoke, etc.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: vortex bowl problems :(

yeah i like HH & HF in my vortex, what coals are you using?
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: vortex bowl problems :(

Overrated in my opinion. I always get the best results with your classic Egyptian bowls.

Never once had good results with the phunnel/vortex. Always gets harsh on me.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: vortex bowl problems :(

my solution is toss it and get a phunnel.. Other then that i cant help you.. Sorry =)

also only use the Vortex for Really wet tobaccos.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: vortex bowl problems :(

The whole advantage to vortex and funnel is to let the tobacco molasses actually boil so you get intense flavor. When you use a tobacco like nakhla it doesn't have the moisture like some of the other flavors posted above. Nakhla is just a more traditional Egyptian tobacco so it makes sense it should be smoked out of the old fashion Egyptian bowl.

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Default Re: vortex bowl problems :(

If feel your frustration hdwindex. When I first got my Vortex I was also disappointed at first and I almost ditched the thing but thanks to some patience, and help from some of the forum members, I eventually found the packing method that works best for me. From my experience, getting the right packing method is absolutely crucial with a Vortex bowl.

The packing method I use (regardless of what tobacco I'm using) is to sprinkle the tobacco loosely, but evenly into the bowl until the tobacco is level with the rim. I then take a fork and then going around the spire, I push the tobacco down until the holes in the spire are completely open/exposed. I also take my finger and push down on the tobacco a little to get the level of the tobacco nice and even so there's no bits sticking up.

Something else to remember is to double-up on the foil if you plan to smoke AF. I don't double-foil with Nakhla as it's not nearly as heat sensitive as AF.

Try this method and see how it works for you.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 10:39 AM
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If feel your frustration hdwindex. When I first got my Vortex I was also disappointed at first and I almost ditched the thing but thanks to some patience, and help from some of the forum members, I eventually found the packing method that works best for me. From my experience, getting the right packing method is absolutely crucial with a Vortex bowl.

The packing method I use (regardless of what tobacco I'm using) is to sprinkle the tobacco loosely, but evenly into the bowl until the tobacco is level with the rim. I then take a fork and then going around the spire, I push the tobacco down until the holes in the spire are completely open/exposed. I also take my finger and push down on the tobacco a little to get the level of the tobacco nice and even so there's no bits sticking up.

Something else to remember is to double-up on the foil if you plan to smoke AF. I don't double-foil with Nakhla as it's not nearly as heat sensitive as AF.

Try this method and see how it works for you.
I haven't had great success with my Vortex bowl either. One bowl I smoked was great and the other was pretty terrible. I'll be using this technique next time I setup a bowl.

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