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Old August 17th, 2007, 03:26 PM
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On thing that has come to my attention in recent months is that a lot of young people (late teens and twenty somethings) have discovered the wonders of the narghile. While this new found popularity is great I have noticed a lot of people complaining here and else where about headaches, dizziness, disorientation and the like so I think it high time that I say something about the sensible enjoyment of the wonderful invention we call the narghile or, more commonly in the states, the hookah.

As a result of all narghile being indirectly heated via charcoal CO production and inhalation are inevitable if you inhale. Too much CO inhalation can be vary dangerous and even fatal so if you feel dizziness, disorientation or nausea it is a sure sign that your body is telling you to change the way you smoke.

I wish that everyone knows what I am about to say but itís obvious that such a presumption is unfounded. Never smoke with charcoal designed for use with cooking grills as they produce enough CO to put your life in danger. I know that a lot of people want to start smoking as quickly as possible and if your one of those people then narghiles are not suited to you. I say this because if you are not willing to put in the time needed to set up and clean your narghile you will not have a very enjoyable experience. In terms of coals only use ones made expressly for use with a narghile. No matter what sort of coal you use never draw smoke until it has started to ash.

If you smoke a western style pipe the wrong way youíll have a tongue that hurts and a sore throat so how you smoke matters as well as what you smoke. I know that a lot of people love the look of huge clouds and smoke rings the size of car tires but those things are often obtained by inhaling way too much smoke too quickly and when you do that you get far too much CO along with your clouds.

Smoking should not be about massive clouds, impressing people or proving that you can suck in more smoke then anyone else at a party but instead it should be about the love of craftsmanship, the taste and sensation of the smoke, relaxation and friendship. As such smoking should be relaxing and something that you should do slowly. You will have far less problems if you wait 30 seconds to a minute between draws and youíll get to savor the taste more.

Itís a bad idea to smoke on an empty stomach or drink alcohol when you smoke as a lack of food or booze will amplify the impact of the CO youíre taking in. Instead, have some coffee, tea, water or soda as well as some bread or fruit when you smoke. I assure you youíll enjoy it more.

Like anything in life too much narghile smoking at one time is very unpleasant. If you are new to smoking keep your seasons to no more then 45 until youíve become comfortable with the hobby. No matter how experienced you are I would advise against smoking for then two hours a day and should note that for many people smoking more then one hour a day is a bad idea.

Narghiles are a wonderful part of my life and would rather that everyone that uses them feel similarly. In order for that to be the case smokers need to exercise a bit care with not just what but how they smoke.
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Old August 17th, 2007, 04:08 PM
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I agree with you for the most part. Be sensible, listen to your body. Theres no shame in going for just a session or two.

Also, be careful when buying coal. Make sure you get brand names that are tried and trusted. I've had a horror story with the discount bin coal at my local place.
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Old August 19th, 2007, 01:21 PM
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Speaking of coal horror stories you guys have to have hear this. A while back I went into a little shop in San Diego with a huge sign saying something about hookahs and when I got in it was a very chintzy porn/head shop/hookah place. The guy behind the counter was talking with two guys that sounded like bevis and butthead and the three of them were putting sanford grill coals on to some junky chinese rig. Needless to say I left very quickly and purchased nothing.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 03:22 PM
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You're right about the stoner thing being being a huge cross born by narghile smokers which is compounded by the vast array of lowbrow, sleazy vendors hawking shisha wares nation wide. Partly I think the problem is that the whole hobby has started to be come trendy with the 20 something set and no authority figure/publication exists to set people right about what our thing is all about.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 04:13 PM
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it has a lot to do with conditioning.

sort of along the lines of when you hear hooves, think horse not zebra if that makes any sense.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 10:44 PM
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it has a lot to do with conditioning.

sort of along the lines of when you hear hooves, think horse not zebra if that makes any sense.
Yeap... visited a local "glass shop" that was supposed to have a good selection of hookahs and supplies. BLARG... they only had Social Smoke Hookahs and very limited shisha, which was WAY OVER PRICED ($3.00 for 50g of Nahkla, $4 for 50g HH and $25 for 250g SB).

Great glass, but we all know the direction of their glass works. Bummer... but it's a stigma that we've (true hookah smokers) have got to break people of.

But Hajo, it's so true - I've stopped "clouding" unless making videos and it's so much more relaxing. And lasts so much longer. This isn't a "race" to finish the bowl, it's a relaxing past-time meant to be savored and enjoyed.
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Old August 21st, 2007, 02:59 PM
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That post should be chiseled in stone for the benefit of future generations.

I especially sustain and the smoking for ones own enjoyment.... not a competition.

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If you smoke a western style pipe the wrong way youíll have a tongue that hurts and a sore throat so how you smoke matters as well as what you smoke. I know that a lot of people love the look of huge clouds and smoke rings the size of car tires but those things are often obtained by inhaling way too much smoke too quickly and when you do that you get far too much CO along with your clouds.
An argument (or so it would appear) we look like we also agree on. Too many times have you read posts about "cant taste my shisha" or "tongue/throat hurts". I used to scream that Tongue Bite was the culprit.....a chemical burn on the tongue. I got very little enthusiasm about that notion.... I suppose becasue the solution to avoiding tongue bite is limitation and patient smoking.

anyway.... fine post, there!
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 12:46 PM
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Thanks for the input Lake. I see endless comments about various aches and pains from smoking and it all seems to come down to bad technique. When you smoke or do any sort of physical activity doing things wrongly or too quickly will hurt you. Anyone that fails to do warm up before jumping into a s I used to know a strenuous exercise program or a 10 mile hike is going to be in serious pain.

I used to know a guy that chain smoked pipes in fast, angry way. He ruined endless stems and used something like 3 pounds of tobacco a week and endlessly complained about tongue bit and burning the roof of his mouth.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 12:44 AM
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i used to be the same way. puff puff puff, cloud cloud cloud, etc. but now a days there are usually more people around when we smoke so there is conversation between clouds. while i still cant help but take a huge blast at least once or twice when the hose comes to me, i still cant help the urge to tell people that sit there and hork on the hose to settle down. continuous pulls like that makes you taste more tobacco than flavoring, and the whole point is to chill and relax, right?
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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:22 AM
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I have also found out that if you have LBP (Low blood pressure) it makes you extremely susceptiable (sp it's late) to these kinds of aches and pains. I found out the other day that I have LBP I had some severe episodes after I smoked. (I also have episodes when I'm not smoking, so both incidents kinda made me weary and I talked to a Dr.)

Now I have always hated buzzes, and stop smoking if I feel dizzy or light headed. I smoke slowly, and don't really cloud. When I stand up, I get super dizzy. I get dizzy if I stand up fast when not smoking as well. But it would compound it. Even hours later I would take a shower an hour later and the room would spin uncontrollably and get bad vertigo. It makes my migraines 10X worse than they normally would be, and they make my heart race like it wants to skip beats in order to catch up. Buzzes are actually painful due to the LBP.

Now. I'm saying these things because I have pin pointed what happens to me and when and know that I have been told that I have LBP, I can't STRESS to you guys enough to def. smoke sensibly. Trust your body. I thought I was 100% ok with just needing to chill off the hookah even more than I had. So if you are smoking SENSIBLY,and still have problems, i'd suggest getting checked out by a doctor. I would have never known.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 10:02 AM
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I'm glad to see this topic has gotten some traction and it's good to hear from KK and smoke-all-day (love to pictures by the way) because it is clear that a great many people have lost sight of what this hobby is all about. Making yourself ill detracts from the enjoyment that this hobby has to offer and makes the remainder of your waking hours less enjoyable.

Given that this hobby already misunderstood by the public and gets a lot of bad press the last thing we need is having reports of peopling passing out from CO poisoning or getting sick in some lounge while trying to impress some friends. I think it is vital that we teach new smokers how NOT to smoke and what narghile use is all about.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:37 PM
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This is a good post. Thank you for posting it, Hajo.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:57 PM
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Cheers to you David, haven't seen you around in a while
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Old February 24th, 2009, 12:15 AM
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that was really helpful i am one of those guys that take huge hits in a row with the big clouds i am going to tell my friends now to slow it down and i will to i enjoy hookah and i want to keep on doing it.
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I feel like this post should be published as "The HookahPro's Creed" and engraved on every hookah pipe sold in the world. Whether or not our pastime is seen as trendy, or something only illegal drug users do, we know that it is a sensible means by which unwind at the end of a day, our pipes are conversation pieces meant to be shared with friends, and the whole point is relax and enjoy a pleasurable experience with our peers.
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 09:08 PM
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this should be a sticky
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Old September 4th, 2009, 12:30 AM
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Hajo i agree with you, but the funny thing is where I live all the Mediterranean style restaurants here that serve hookah use coals made for grilling. And just like someone else said i used to take rapid pulls and inhaled them in deep so i would get more smoke but after i saw this thread i will not be doing that anymore to enjoy my sessions more.
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Hajo I loved your post, well said.
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It is very sad to think that this is anything but common knowledge. All points I have made multiple times.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 01:07 AM
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I agree with this fully, I'll take big hits now and then but after getting really sick from smoking too much I've become a much more responsible smoker. I mean sit back relax, unwind, and enjoy the smoke. That's what this hobby is all about, right?
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Old December 27th, 2009, 01:53 AM
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Mang, thanks A LOT! I've just finished a bowl, went angry cause my throat hurted while trying to get long pulls to produce big clouds, and after 10 mins, wanted to throw up. I thought for myslef "damn, I've spent $2000 just to feel sick", I even thought of selling my hookah, getting rid of it forever. But as everyone has said, this is a chilling hobby and all... THANKS, I'm sure next bowl will be like smoking for the first time!
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Now I have always hated buzzes, and stop smoking if I feel dizzy or light headed. I smoke slowly, and don't really cloud. When I stand up, I get super dizzy. I get dizzy if I stand up fast when not smoking as well. But it would compound it. Even hours later I would take a shower an hour later and the room would spin uncontrollably and get bad vertigo. It makes my migraines 10X worse than they normally would be, and they make my heart race like it wants to skip beats in order to catch up. Buzzes are actually painful due to the LBP.
this explains why my friend stopped smoking completely after he was diagnosed with LBP.
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Old December 27th, 2009, 10:37 AM
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This is an old post but always great advice
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well spoken.
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Old December 27th, 2009, 12:37 PM
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I whole heartedly agree. one shouldn't start something that can be potentially dangerous becuase it's the "cool" thing to do. I personally have smoked a hookah with a friend and it was a very enjoyable experience. personally, I don't understand why anyone in their right mind would use cooking charcoal to fire up a hookah. it's freaking huge. it should be common sense that if it's to big to fit on the bowl that you shouldn't be using it to smoke the hookah.
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